Proposal to be put to the RTA to build an ICV

[Modena]

Originally Posted by Baz

Because the current system in NSW stinks and I'm trying to make it a lot simpler and easier for those who follow behind me with their builds.

Baz

dont get me wrong Baz, I understand WHY you would do this, I just don't understand the timing.

[suthol]

Originally Posted by Modena

dont get me wrong Baz, I understand WHY you would do this, I just don't understand the timing.

A fair bit of pressure has been heaped on the RTA before, during and immediately after the state election and for the moment at least they are listening and more importantly responding.

While, strike, hot, iron, the, is ( rearrange to suit )

[400TT]

Baz, great idea.

In your proposal, do the required testing procedures & required values also get locked in? e.g. chassis torsional requirements, requirements for side intrusion, seat belt mounts etc.

We have an "approval to build" in QLD, but it doesn't lock in anything as far as I can see.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by 400TT

Baz, great idea.

In your proposal, do the required testing procedures & required values also get locked in? e.g. chassis torsional requirements, requirements for side intrusion, seat belt mounts etc.

We have an "approval to build" in QLD, but it doesn't lock in anything as far as I can see.

Thanks Craig,

I can't see any reason to change from the current requirement of testing requirements which really should be supplied in the first instance by the manufacturer of the kit, not the buyer. The overall objective is to have a completed vehicle which is as safe and roadworthy as possible.

Speaking of "Kits", I was browsing through an aeronautical magazine the other day and noticed that they now have 'Kit Planes' for sale. E.G. A build your own Spitfire for $45K. Who said the 'Kit' industry was on its knees?

Baz

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Baz

Speaking of "Kits", I was browsing through an aeronautical magazine the other day and noticed that they now have 'Kit Planes' for sale. E.G. A build your own Spitfire for $45K. Who said the 'Kit' industry was on its knees?

Baz

I wonder if the aviation watch dogs are eating from the same breakfast bowl as the RTA?

[suthol]

Originally Posted by Dimis

I wonder if the aviation watch dogs are eating from the same breakfast bowl as the RTA?

It's far easier to get a kit plane in the air legally than a kit car on the road in NSW.

Go figure.

[400TT]

Baz, I would recommend locking in the testing procedures as well. Because when you purchase the kit the manufacturer should supply all the docs for the current testing or at least the buyer knows what is currently required from the engineers. But there is nothing stopping the RTA from introducing new testing procedures and requirements while the kit is being built. This is separate from the ADR's that the kit is being built to etc. The testing procedures and requirements can be changed independently to the ADR's. i.e. the requirement for certified seat belt mounts, compared to physically testing the seat belt mounts, same goes for anti-intrusion bars etc.

Just making sure your wording covers both.

[Krait]

Kitplanes (experimental aircraft) have been around since the Wright Brothers. The some of current offerings are very sophisticated. Even jet versions are available.

Cheers

[Baz]

Originally Posted by 400TT

Baz, I would recommend locking in the testing procedures as well. Because when you purchase the kit the manufacturer should supply all the docs for the current testing or at least the buyer knows what is currently required from the engineers. But there is nothing stopping the RTA from introducing new testing procedures and requirements while the kit is being built. This is separate from the ADR's that the kit is being built to etc. The testing procedures and requirements can be changed independently to the ADR's. i.e. the requirement for certified seat belt mounts, compared to physically testing the seat belt mounts, same goes for anti-intrusion bars etc.

Just making sure your wording covers both.

Appreciate all the help I can get here Craig. Thanks for you input. This is what the Forum is all about and hopefully will achieve some really positive outcomes for everyone.


Baz

[Tenrocca]

Originally Posted by suthol

While, strike, hot, iron, the, is ( rearrange to suit )

Too, far, push, and, f**k, off, they, us, tell ?

It does sound a good idea, Just not sure we should be pushing our luck right now if things are about to improve.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Tenrocca

Too, far, push, and, f**k, off, they, us, tell ?

It does sound a good idea, Just not sure we should be pushing our luck right now if things are about to improve.

Hi Andrew,

I have an understanding contact within the RTA heairachy who is more than keen to listen and respond to change if the proposal has merit. It is only a proposal and eventually will be submitted to them for consideration. Whether they take it and run with it is up to them, but any improvement would be more than welcome.


Baz