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stevenewbie · #1 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 02:49 PM

hello everyone just joined up as i am in the market to build a new cobra look forward to tapping into everyone knowlage on this one.any suggestions?

Dimis · #2 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 03:12 PM

Welcome Steven,

What are you looking foe exactly... ie: intended purpose?
& which state are you located in... VIC?

Regards,

stevenewbie · #3 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 03:15 PM

hello im wanting a road car but i also would like to do some track days so would like something light for the track purpose.in in vic

Dimis · #4 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenewbie

hello im wanting a road car but i also would like to do some track days so would like something light for the track purpose.in in vic

Cool, sounds common enough... then the next question is budget.
Low, Limited, or Infinite?

Either way, add another 30% on what you think it might be & that will cover you.

PS: In my experience they are all light enough... Even the heavy ones are light.

stevenewbie · #5 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 03:29 PM

budget somewhere between 50-60k build only not including my labour

David Hodgson · #6 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 03:48 PM

Welcome Steve, best thing to do is join your local club in Vic (2 down there)and get to as many runs, and meetings as possible and you will see them in the flesh and can chew the owners ear off. A pictures worth a thousand words, but in person is ten fold. If you're out of Melbourne, still make the trip in a couple of times.

byroncobra · #7 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 04:10 PM

Welcome Steve

He he, love the

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not including labour

If we added that into our budgets a Cobby would we worth as much as an original!!

oilman · #8 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011, 06:11 PM

I started looking about 6 months ago. Visited 3 manufacturers Kenmer in Noble Park (highly recommend you talk to Marty), Classic Revival (Sydney) and RCM (Blackburn). I decided to go with Classic Revival, but you could meet all 3 (+ others) and make a different decision.

Jethrow · #9 (**permalink**) 11-09-2011, 12:37 AM

Don't forget a Factory Five in your research. There is an aussie distributor now too.

Merv and Sharon · #10 (**permalink**) 11-09-2011, 01:17 AM

And a few in Victoria have Harrisons and could comment. Try to get along to some club meets if you haven't already. Lots of questions and photographs.

stevenewbie · #11 (**permalink**) 11-13-2011, 03:05 PM

thank everyone for your suggestions. there is a lot of information to process when doing your homework on these kits. just out of curiosity i visted a car show on the weekend near robina as i am currently on the gold coast looking at some kits up here and visited bydesignmotorsports dislpay they had there,it was very impressive stand and they have the full aluminuim chassis can anyone give me some feed back on this one?

boxhead · #12 (**permalink**) 11-13-2011, 07:22 PM

I am not sure if there are many or any on the road yet?
Looks to be a good bit of gear, but the body shape is not to my likeing (but that is a personel thing), mainly in the bum.

Merv and Sharon · #13 (**permalink**) 11-13-2011, 09:16 PM

And Absolute Pace at the Gold Coast has a similar chassis I am told.

stevenewbie · #14 (**permalink**) 11-13-2011, 10:16 PM

spoke to absolute pace via email after reding their ad i was under the impression that they had a complete car or even something under construction as they quote "the pace 427 is designed and approved for australian road use" after a chat with an engineer he advised that you must have a physical car to complete one of the tests,this is not the case very misleading advertising. i like to deal with people that are honest and dont like to be mislead. so thanks but no thanks on absolute pace.

LoBelly · #15 (**permalink**) 11-13-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenewbie

spoke to absolute pace via email after reding their ad i was under the impression that they had a complete car or even something under construction as they quote "the pace 427 is designed and approved for australian road use" after a chat with an engineer he advised that you must have a physical car to complete one of the tests,this is not the case very misleading advertising. i like to deal with people that are honest and dont like to be mislead. so thanks but no thanks on absolute pace.

**much inhaling of breath

Its a small community and many of the issues are not black and white when it comes to compliance, state by state variations - and sometimes timing.

On the CCCV site we have a strong recommendation that you get along to meet people who've been through the build process.

You will get a much better idea of people you might be inclined to work with from others who have had dealings with them.

... and hopefully a disinclination to veer toward assertions on propriety.

good luck with your research

LoBelly

Beejay · #16 (**permalink**) 11-14-2011, 02:20 AM

Craig is about as straight as they come.

If I was to start again Absolute Pace would be on the list.

Ben

400TT · #17 (**permalink**) 11-20-2011, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevenewbie

spoke to absolute pace via email after reding their ad i was under the impression that they had a complete car or even something under construction as they quote "the pace 427 is designed and approved for australian road use" after a chat with an engineer he advised that you must have a physical car to complete one of the tests,this is not the case very misleading advertising. i like to deal with people that are honest and dont like to be mislead. so thanks but no thanks on absolute pace.

Sorry if you have felt misled, certainly not our intention.

We are currently designing and building the components for our Cobra. The kits will have extensive testing, in some cases more testing than required by our registration requirements.

I am personally very excited to have our Cobra offerings finally coming together. We are putting everything we have into them and I am very happy with how they are coming together. They are a different offering to what is currently available.

Thanks everyone for your kind words and support, it's a tough industry and tough economic times, so I am grateful for any support that is offered.

Good luck with it Steve.

Donunder · #18 (**permalink**) 11-20-2011, 06:47 AM

Nice reasoned reply there Craig. I'd have gone off at the ignorant twit.
The responses following his fatuous and uninformed comments illustrate the esteem in which you and your company are held by the Australian Cobra family.

xb-60 · #19 (**permalink**) 12-07-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Donunder

Nice reasoned reply there Craig. I'd have gone off at the ignorant twit.
The responses following his fatuous and uninformed comments illustrate the esteem in which you and your company are held by the Australian Cobra family.

Just came across this thread.

My 2 cents worth….that’s a little tough on a new guy isn’t it? Isn’t he doing exactly what we on this forum should be advising him to do, speaking to manufacturers and also to a compliance engineer?

The poor guy has probably gone away and won’t return....and I wouldn't blame him.

Glen

sevenohms · #20 (**permalink**) 12-07-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenewbie

spoke to absolute pace via email after reding their ad i was under the impression that they had a complete car or even something under construction as they quote "the pace 427 is designed and approved for australian road use" after a chat with an engineer he advised that you must have a physical car to complete one of the tests,this is not the case very misleading advertising. i like to deal with people that are honest and dont like to be mislead. so thanks but no thanks on absolute pace.

Hi Steve,

I've got a Venom Motorsports chassis, whilst there is split opinions on this chassis, I still love mine. My 2c, and from my engineer, is that all Vic ICV's need to be tested. Whether Vicroads accepts the manufacturers test is entirely up to Vicroads, so this may save you money, but in the end the test isn't that expensive (mine cost $550). So what the person talking to you is actually saying is that his chassis has been tested and passed, so that gives you confidence, whereas mine was untried and needed to be improved to pass. For me, the benefit in spending the extra cash on the RMC/DRB etc etc kits are:

1. You know they pass the torsional test. The other tests (emissions and braking) are dependent on other variables.
2. You get a known path to walk down, that others on this site and through the manufacturer themselves can guide you.
3. Build manuals.
4. Most kits have a spectrum of level of finishing. Things like shock mounts, trailing arms, engine mounts, dash/footwell kits, 'stretched' wheelbases, foot roominess, all add up in the end as more work for you to do. At the bottom of the spectrum is my venom was effectively two chassis rails (like a 32 rod) or a build your own, where you engineer/design it yourself, through to DRB540, which you buy a Falcon and bolt it together (almost).

After taking my path to Cobra ownership, I'd do a Venom again, mostly due to the flexability and joy I get from designing it from the ground up. This in mind, I've probably spent more getting mine to a finish similar to the DRB etc kits, and they would probably look better.

I'm located in Western Suburbs Melbourne.

Nathan