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01-24-2012, 03:41 AM
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Location: Cheltenham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival CR3516, LS3, Aussie Mike'd T-56, 3.70 LSD, AP brakes, Penske shocks
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The idea of the classes is to make this as even as possible so that every car in that class has a real opportunity to win.
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I agree with your statement, however it is completely thrown out the window because of tyres. I have fundamental issues with this relating to tyres. You now HAVE to have R-Spec tyres to have any hope at all of getting close to the front. That doesn't seem fair to me, but that is what The People seem to have wanted at club discussions, so that is what we got. This happened because the most vocal competitors all have R-Spec tyres. The people running on "normal" street tyres haven't added their opinions or spoken loudly enough, so there we have it - R-Spec or you come down the finishing order.
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To split this group in half for less than 1% of there capacity just doesn't make sence.
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I agree the Dart issue is an unfortunate anomaly.
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I just hope the descisions being made are not influenced by a few, who see an opportunity to diminish the competition in their own class thru a technicality.
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I can assure this is not the case. Open club discussions have been held on classing, in relation to both engines and tyres, and The People have spoken. I happen to disagree with some of it, but majority rules.
I think the 6000cc limit was for two reasons;
1) capture the LS1,LS2,L76,L98
you wouldn't want a stock 351 going up against a worked heads & cam LS3
you also wouldn't want a worked L98 going up against a 4990cc stocker
but then again, tyres, tyres, tyres, make most of these comparisons irrelevant
2) allow re-bored 351's to sneak in under 6L
I don't know if anyone really thought of DART strokers that might get split at 6000cc
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01-24-2012, 03:57 AM
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I am sure the 6ltr Dart issue is well known with influential members within your club.
And that is all I will say.
Phil
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01-24-2012, 04:27 AM
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Location: Beaconsfield, Victoria, Australia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RC_Sports Car Replica. Dodge Viper Blue, Candy apple Red stripes 408_Cleveland, 2v heads, twin Gas Research throttle bodies, Full manual stage 3 C10 auto, Jag 3.07 rear.
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I think Ben and Phil both have a very good understanding of the politics behind this discussion.
Over the years that Shelbyfest has been running, my one regret as organiser is introducing classes in to that first event. I've been battling hard since the 3rd year to have them removed (guess I don't always get my own way).
Looking back over all those years, it has been the only problem area where we haven't been able make everyone happy.
Oh and Phil, You have me in the >6lt class this year, just need to find a good set of tyres. (may also need to look in to some James Bond type devices for the Cobra (if I want any chance of a trophy)).
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01-24-2012, 04:31 AM
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Excellent Jason,
How is the new donk?
phil
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01-24-2012, 04:40 AM
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The way I understand it the classes dont come into the trophys anyway.Is it not just the 5 fastest in each event or am I wrong Jason.
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01-24-2012, 09:29 PM
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Excellent Jason,
How is the new donk?
phil
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I think it drinks alot
Seriously, how's it going? Myself and MG were wondering about it the other day.
Cheers
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01-24-2012, 11:45 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
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I like the new fabricated intake manifold setup. 100mm RHS should flow heaps! 
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01-24-2012, 07:46 PM
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It has been great to enter the last three Shelbyfest events, but unfortunately my car is up for sale and I will not be coming down this year. I guess a holiday in Thailand is a good compromise though!
I have been pretty vocal in the past about the tyre groupings, and I still see this as a problem at both of our events. Nothing else has such a huge effect on lap times with similar cars.
Dimis, are you really putting crap on those who race and yet you do not participate?! Some people just do not get it.
Life always rewards those who put in the effort and skill to achieve more than others. Why should social racing be any different?
Ben
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