Venom motorsports beware!!!

[Gav]

Jeez, I hope Doug's rent is cheap!!

[Reno]

I wonder how often Tucker reads posts on here about himself ?I wonder how he sleeps at night.

[OZCOBRA]

Seriously guys this thread gets tiresome every time!!!
Why shell out for something up front without a binding contract or something on a trailer you can take home after paying for!!
Most of you came here asked about the kits or sat in the background reading
about all that has gone on with tucker and then shelled out wads of cash!!!
Buyer be where!!! .... Due diligence!!

I hate the fact you guys have lost or are owed cash...how about doing something about it!!!
I sure and hell wouldn't be bleeting about it on here hoping somebody will do it for me....if you have proof of the debt you can get your money!!!...without anything illegal!!!.... All I will say..."look outside of the box" and you'll have your $$$$ without any angst at all!!!
Just as a good chartered accountant can find every thing your entitled too there are individuals who can do the same with debt!!! ....you want your cash as much as you want to whine about it spend a bit of time and find them!!!

M2CW
THIS HAS BEEN BOUGHT TO YOU
AS PART OF OZ's 2013 NYE RESOLUTION!!!!

[justcobra]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Seriously guys this thread gets tiresome every time!!!
Why shell out for something up front without a binding contract or something on a trailer you can take home after paying for!!
Most of you came here asked about the kits or sat in the background reading
about all that has gone on with tucker and then shelled out wads of cash!!!
Buyer be where!!! .... Due diligence!!

I hate the fact you guys have lost or are owed cash...how about doing something about it!!!
I sure and hell wouldn't be bleeting about it on here hoping somebody will do it for me....if you have proof of the debt you can get your money!!!...without anything illegal!!!.... All I will say..."look outside of the box" and you'll have your $$$$ without any angst at all!!!
Just as a good chartered accountant can find every thing your entitled too there are individuals who can do the same with debt!!! ....you want your cash as much as you want to whine about it spend a bit of time and find them!!!

M2CW
THIS HAS BEEN BOUGHT TO YOU
AS PART OF OZ's 2013 NYE RESOLUTION!!!!

As a community we got a legal right to scrutinise the business practises of Mr David Tucker.

I do not care whether you tied of this ear bashing on this subject but the truth should be aired publicly.

Mr David Tucker has moral obligation to pay his debts and stick to his promises.

Both legal intervention and people who are associated with David Tucker for debt recovery is a wasted exercise.

Statute of LImitation does apply and is valid for six years.

[OZCOBRA]

I don't really care whether this goes on or not,what needs to be said has been said here many times over!!

Do something about it!!!!.... If you want too Pi$$..... 3k or what ever amount
against the wall and call it a lesson learnt, I'm glad it's your wallet and not mine.

Statute of Limitations has no role to play in the options available to
re-coup the monies owed!!!

But obviously you believe Tucker's high MORAL standards will eventually get the better of him and the restitution of all outstanding $$$!!!.. will happen and all that have sat patiently will be satisfied!!!
Dream-on!!!!

That is why this keeps happening...
Like I said they have options!!
But what would I know!!!..Or what don't you know???!!

I'll go back to lurking in the back ground!!

And justcob mate if you think this is any way a form of support for Tucker as you've suggested on the other thread ....you really are delusional!!

OZ ....

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

Seriously guys this thread gets tiresome every time!!!
Why shell out for something up front without a binding contract or something on a trailer you can take home after paying for!!
Most of you came here asked about the kits or sat in the background reading
about all that has gone on with tucker and then shelled out wads of cash!!!
Buyer be where!!! .... Due diligence!!

I hate the fact you guys have lost or are owed cash...how about doing something about it!!!
I sure and hell wouldn't be bleeting about it on here hoping somebody will do it for me....if you have proof of the debt you can get your money!!!...without anything illegal!!!.... All I will say..."look outside of the box" and you'll have your $$$$ without any angst at all!!!
Just as a good chartered accountant can find every thing your entitled too there are individuals who can do the same with debt!!! ....you want your cash as much as you want to whine about it spend a bit of time and find them!!!

M2CW
THIS HAS BEEN BOUGHT TO YOU
AS PART OF OZ's 2013 NYE RESOLUTION!!!!

I had a binding contract with John Panfill and Anthem Motors in AZ on my first Cobra build, after he stole my money as well as others he filed bankruptcy and could not be held liable for any wrong doing, I'm glad you guys are looking out for one another, the laws may be different here in the USA, but for someone to say do you are whining can go suck an egg, until you loose cash and can't recoup, keep your mouth shut...

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

........the laws may be different here in the USA, but for someone to say do you are whining can go suck an egg, until you loose cash and can't recoup, keep your mouth shut...

With all due respect to your past losses.....without knowing the history of this guy like I/we do and the history of the warnings of his dodgy dealings to prospective buyers .....their losses were avoidable!!!
Do your own due diligence and read all the other threads on this pr!ck in this forum and tell me they haven't be forewarned!!

As for keeping my mouth shut.... Not friggin likely!!
I'll make sure it's loud enough for you to hear me on the strip all the way from Melbourne!!!!
justcobra ...seriously "Quiet Duty".....offensive??!!... Forewarned is Forearmed!!!

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by OZCOBRA

With all due respect to your past losses.....without knowing the history of this guy like I/we do and the history of the warnings of his dodgy dealings to prospective buyers .....their losses were avoidable!!!
Do your own due diligence and read all the other threads on this pr!ck in this forum and tell me they haven't be forewarned!!

As for keeping my mouth shut.... Not friggin likely!!
I'll make sure it's loud enough for you to hear me on the strip all the way from Melbourne!!!!
justcobra ...seriously "Quiet Duty".....offensive??!!... Forewarned is Forearmed!!!

So it's the people who got ripped offs fault, regardless if they knew or not you telling them to go to court or personally get there money from him is easier said than done, until then, LET THEM *****, this is the venue to do it, they have a right to, losing money sucks...I'LL ASK POLITLY. SHUT UP PLEASE. And I know the history, been on this site long enough... Let them ***** till the sheep come home...

[Mando]

Justcobra, I agree with some points made by both you and OZCOBRA. I have taken 5 people to small claims court and won 5 times and more importantly received my money. The claims were for no amount greater than $2000 but I received my money not because I won the cases but because the people were rule abiding. "Morally Obliged" is just a catch phrase. If any of my clients decided not to pay, there wasn't a great deal more I could really do without spending more money and time.
OZCOBRA is correct in that due diligence should be observed but I know from my own experience that is the last thing on my mind when pursuing something I really want. I just hand over the money assuming the person I'm dealing with is as excited about the transaction as I am. The best example I can give you is when I bought my Classic Revival kit, I rang the manufacturer several times and had a brochure sent over. I never visited the office/factory in Sydney and never spoke to another kit owner. Even though the business owner was difficult to deal with I simply placed my order sent $5000 over and hoped for the best. Other than a few misgivings such as the paint quality on the chassis and the terrible alignment of one of the doors I think I was one of the lucky ones.
I think the answer really is research every aspect thoroughly including,
i. visit the manufacturer
ii. ask for phone numbers of previous clients
iii. contact cobra clubs
iv. read associated books/magazines
v. find forums such as Club Cobra
vi. visit Cobras for sale

Regards.

[justcobra]

I have been reliably informed by a new club cobra forum member that Mr. David Tucker is trying to sell his business on a Gumtree for $120k and the reason for sale is ill health.
.

[sambo]

Originally Posted by justcobra

I have been reliably informed by a new club cobra forum member that Mr. David Tucker is trying to sell his business on a Gumtree for $120k and the reason for sale is ill health.
.

Start your own cobra business......

[sideshow]

since when does
knee caping
bullet wounds
slip throat
baseball bat to the head

be classed as ill health hahahahaha

[Rob. Smith]

It is a solid fact that there is a lot of uninformed enthusiastic cobra fans out there...look at all the newbie comments...big dreams..big ideas and no idea about the hard cold facts about building / owning a Cobra....These poor sods are prime targets for the unscrupulous thieves out there.....It is this forums group quiet duty to steer these people away from the crooks in this hobby ! Tell it like it is !

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by Rob. Smith

.....It is this forums group quiet duty to steer these people away from the crooks in this hobby......Tell it like it is !

Did you say QUIET DUTY???NOT A CHANCE IN HELL ....say it LOUD!!!

[justcobra]

I am sitting on this fence line and seeing these comments and someone please explain what does "Quiet Duty Means".Is this offensive!

[Rob. Smith]

well I'm the peanut that said it is your quiet duty to inform new potential buyers about the pitfalls of buying and building a Cobra....I have also "quietly" informed others about the pitfalls of announcing changes to their cars after rego...I feel that discrete personal contact can inform somebody about the problem without alerting the authority or offender to their intended act ! deep **** eh...in other words tell somebody before they get stung !

[macloft]

Been lots of comments, 6 pages worth. Pretty entertaining sometimes also. Wonder if the thread has actually stopped anyone buying off Mr Tucker. Unfortunately I would think most people who are tempted probably don't read this forum.
Bruce

[Tenrocca]

Originally Posted by Rob. Smith

...I have also "quietly" informed others about the pitfalls of announcing changes to their cars after rego...

One of the stupidest type of posts on this forum - a frequent frustration for me as well.

[sjelby]

Maybe the !4,000 odd viewings of this thread have had an impact on his business.

[sambo]

From the ebay listing below, "So as to the knockers on the forums, we’re flat out building and the others are closing their doors."

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