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Old 06-19-2012, 05:01 PM
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I think a 2nd hand Cobra is an avenue worth looking at with the current 2nd hand market and spend the time restoring it and getting it the way you want it. I would definitely contact Just Dreamin, he is a great guy and be worth seeing what options there are locally. That's if you have the funds available upfront, if you don't then you will need to get very aggressive to get the build well below the $50k mark.

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It's true it certainly didn't come out of the moulds like that, not sure what Phil spent on the seams etc, but interesting thought......
It's more than just the parting seams, you need to level the body where those seams are, then also finish off and coat the edges of doors, boot and bonnet and repair any defects etc. I suspect the entire body has been re-coated in gelcoat, rubbed back and polished. Phil didn't do it, he purchased the car that way. It's a beatiful job, but time consuming and expensive if you had to pay someone to do it.

I'm hoping my customers see the benefit of high quality full gloss body panels as I have invested significantly in that approach. I think it is a winner on many fronts. To get to where we are now, took a unique approach to plug creation and finish, then same with mould and even the way the bodies are constructed/layed up. It's not an easy process and required a lot of development. as mentioned marine manufacturers do it, but their body shapes are generally not as complex. Due to the complexity, that's probably why other Cobra manufacturers here have not attempted it to the level we have. They might not see the benefit in it either.
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And have a read of the threads warning what not to buy.

As I said earlier, cheap start does not equate to cheap finish.............. If you get it at all.
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I have just talked to Vehicle inspections. And they say the engine,even on dedicated gas, Has to meet adr 3701. So it has to be after 1988.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:09 PM
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I have just talked to Vehicle inspections. And they say the engine,even on dedicated gas, Has to meet adr 3701. So it has to be after 1988.
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Never heard of that before, technically you should be able to use any engine on dedicated LPG under ADR 37/01. But not many people take the LPG option these days so the requirements in each state are not well known . Problem with the registration system is that each state controls the process and requirements are different in each state. And there it is not well documented. I'm not suggesting it is, but this could even be just someones opinion or interpretation.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:15 AM
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My 1987 Windsor on dedicated gas was fine under 37/01.

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Old 06-19-2012, 02:43 AM
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Is there club rego in SA? Might simplify things.

As for cost, I have spent low 30s on mine so far with only a small amount of part left to buy and then rego should see it under $40k. Thats with buying my body and chassis for $6k. I have done everything myself except drive shaft. That is with fabricating everything fuel tank, windscreen frame and various other bits and pieces. I'm just polishing up a washer tank I also fabricated.

You can build a car for $40k but it takes a lot longer unless you are lucky enough to work full time on it. If you need to pay someone to do it I would buy the most complete kit you can regardless of cost because it will be cheaper in the long run. Sounds like you can work on it yourself though.

Some cheap 2nd hand cobras have been changing hands with the current economy. This is a good way to go without rego headaches. Alternatively an unfinished project on eBay.
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The first time I rang today, they said a old 351 on gas was fine. Then i rang later to ask about side pipes. I got a different guy, explaining you can, but you won't be able to get them quiet enough. I mentioned the 351. And he said no about the gas 351. Unless I get a $3000 gas analisys, engineer report etc. He suggests I put In a form requisting what I want to do, and go from there. Everystate is different. Why are the cars in the US so cheap?
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:59 PM
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The first time I rang today, they said a old 351 on gas was fine. Then i rang later to ask about side pipes. I got a different guy, explaining you can, but you won't be able to get them quiet enough. I mentioned the 351. And he said no about the gas 351. Unless I get a $3000 gas analisys, engineer report etc. He suggests I put In a form requisting what I want to do, and go from there. Everystate is different. Why are the cars in the US so cheap?
Here is a link to an engineer in S.A who may be able to assist with your queries more than a public servant.

Rory Thompson Services

Cars in the US are considerably cheaper but quite different to those that are required to meet Aust. standards. That could be saved for another topic.
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Contact me if you want to talk, I know of 2 cars for sale in Adelaide at the moment that you could look at. My contact details on are on a PM I have sent you. John
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Jaydee: strongly suggest you ask as many Cobra people as possible (here is a good place to check) before buying anything on ebay

Craig: what diff is the Pace chassis setup for? I understand you are using fabricated suspension components, I'm assuming you are not fabricating a diff......
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Craig: what diff is the Pace chassis setup for? I understand you are using fabricated suspension components, I'm assuming you are not fabricating a diff......
ZF 8.3" unit as used by Holden in VE Commodore, also in Camaro etc. Used by some of the largest Cobra manufacturers overseas as well. Wide ratio choice, reliable and price competitive. Also you have bolt-in upgrade centres for large horsepower installs. Everything else in the rear is fabricated, uses a pushrod suspension setup, but have kept the bearings oem compatible in spec, so that we keep our and owners options open.
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Zedn, to answer your question, SA has no club rego scheme at present. However the transport dept strives for a consistant set standards and regulations between the states????
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Thanks leroy. I'll give them a ring.
There is a 2004 model being sold here, with a carby 302 setup?
It says finished in 2012, commenced in 2004. New- fully rebuilt from scratch?
Is it built or rebuilt? confusing. It's going for 48.ooo.
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There is a cheap Harrison on ebay at the moment... finishes in 9 min.

It may need work to suit your requirements.... just a thought.
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I have a few mates in SA with Valiants on club rego. So the system is in SA
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:28 AM
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I have a few mates in SA with Valiants on club rego. So the system is in SA
Yep, but just not club rego for replicas.

JD, I reckon looking at a few 2nd hand cobra's will help you either way. You will either find a 2nd hand car that you like for the right money or it will convince you that building is the right path for you.
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That one on eBay was an absolute steal at $37k. Really shows how bad the market is.
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Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.Item number: 230809078383

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VIN (Vehicle Identification Number):

6T9P0100S411FC022
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For Sale by:

Private Seller

Engine Number:

GH3057C



Date of Manufacture:

01/2004

Registration State:

SA



Body Type:

Convertible

Registration Information:

08/2011



Kilometres:

2,200

Number of Previous Owners:

0



Date of 1st Registration:

01/08/2011

Safety Features:

Immobiliser, Safety Belt Pretensioners



Transmission:

Automatic

Options:

Alloy Wheels, AM, FM Stereo, Convertible, Leather Seats



Fuel Type:

Petrol

Type:

Convertible



Doors:

2

Engine Size:

5.0



Colour:

Blue

Metallic Paint:

Yes



Engine Size (litre):

5

Fuel:

Petrol



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I am building a new house with the new wife.!!

I have to sell my machine.

Massive Regrettable Sale!!



Adelaide AC Cobra Replica.

Registered in SA to August, 2012.

Receipts for EVERYTHING !!



Bidders: My advice is come and have a look then make your bid.

Interstate buyers could use the RAA for inspection.

Full Regency Park Approvals & Compliance documentation.
Fully engineered by W.Doug Potts MIEAust, MSAE-A, CPEng.

Commenced in 2004.
Finished March, 2012.
Powder coated chassis.
2Pak Regency Blue metallic.
New fully engineered and authorized Leather bucket seats. Very comfortable.
New fully professional upholstered cockpit.
New upholstered dash. Stained and lacquered Timber dash spare included.

NEW - fully rebuilt/re-engineered from scratch with all new parts into Bronco block - Windsor 302 by Dennis Osmond.
Approximately 2000 kms since build. Hypertech Pistons, Plasma Rings.
Mexican block, New Dynotec Cam, New Melling Oil Pump, fully reconditioned
Smog heads, EGR plate and Valve from Summit Racing. Full Ca Emissions Compliant.

New: Tractor Battery, starter mtr, coil, distributor, fuel pump.
Extractors with split system.
Operational Side pipes (see below!). Sounds awesome!

New Holden V8 radiator.
65litre Nissan fuel tank.
C4 gearbox with Hi Stall Stage II shift kit; (1800 - 2200 RPM).
B&M Quicksilver gearshift.
Jaguar Series II Independent front end with new discs and pads and fully rebuilt calipers.
Jaguar Series II rear end with new discs and pads and fully rebuilt calipers.
Jaguar Series II Gauges: V8 Tacho - Re-calibrated and serviced, kmh Speedo, Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Gauge, Volts Gauge.
Immobilizer system ( to ignition and fuel pump).
New Chrome rocker covers and Air Cleaner.
MG/Mini lights all round - some new some 2nd hand - new globes.

Chrome Roll Bar - bought second hand - needs to be taken off and buffed.

Front: Speedy 15 x 7's. Mastercraft Avenger 235/60R15
Rear: Speedy 15 x 8's. Mastercraft Avenger 275/60R15

New Holley 600cmf Vac secondary 4 barrel carby.

New Summit Racing 12volt 3" Butterfly valves on Sidepipes.
Choose 110dB or 85 dB with just a flick of the switch!!
For like, you know - track work!

Does this tell you who made the kit. Is this worth looking at?
Thanks guys for all the advice so far. When is there a cobra meeting in Adelaide?
He's wanting bids over 30.000 reserve not met. or take it now for $44.000.
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Want a good cheap car.....Theres a Classic Revival at penrith that was on Ebay that has expired now and didnt sell... its a steal....it has front end back end fitted windscreen brakes its painted silver has lights fitted front and rear steering column in roll bar mirrors pedal box etc etc its a steal....I woud buy it but already have to many projects....I rang him and I could buy it for 15k he just wants to sell it 0404 058 714
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Thanks, I missed that one. I'll give him a ring tommorrow. I've looked up cr kobra. Just the parts would be up to 30.000. Are they a good kit, I haven't heard it mentioned before. What would it cost to truck to SA?
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