Absolute Pace

Welcome to Club Cobra.

You are currently viewing the world's largest resource for Shelby related information as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Forums > Australian Cobra Club

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
May 2020
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31            

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree27Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #81 (permalink)  
Old 04-26-2020, 08:27 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,744
Not Ranked     
Default

Soz too late sold!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Sponsored Links
  #82 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 04:42 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60 View Post
I wanted to have my 289 in Viking Blue, but relying on information from the '60s as to the codes and formulations didn't sit well enough with me. I spoke with Trevor Legate about paint colours, and he told me which particular picture in one of his books was the closest to Viking Blue....and then I looked for a late-ish model car that matched the picture colour, and got the paint code from that. Took a while, but I'm happy with that colour on my car.

All part of the "journey"!

Cheers,
Glen
Ha ha the 'journey'...... more like a search for the Holy Grail, it never ends. The more I learn the more I realise I dont know
Reply With Quote
  #83 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 04:46 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spookypt View Post
Stef’s car
OOOhhhh yeah, perfect, thankyou very much what is his number. What a great looking car. Hard to tell for sure but looks like a great reproduction of CSX3034. Gee even LHD and already in Oz.

Could you PM me his contact details please
Reply With Quote
  #84 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 04:48 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spookypt View Post
soz too late sold!

Dooohhhhh !?!?!?!

Last edited by CobraAddict; 04-27-2020 at 04:51 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #85 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 04:51 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

God dam it. It was never advertised that I know of over say the last 6 months !
Reply With Quote
  #86 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 05:09 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

I assume its an import given its LHD. Do you have his conatct details anyway. PM if you can. I would like to talk to him more about how he got it ! Ahh its a lovely car, even has period metal blade cooling fans, tripod lucas PL head lights and period mirrors. Do you know what make the car is?

Last edited by CobraAddict; 04-27-2020 at 05:12 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #87 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 05:27 AM
Dimis's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne, Vic
Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
Posts: 2,266
Not Ranked     
Default

Contemporary. Ccx

And i really really liked his old car! It was a redone robnell.
The dude has great taste in Conrad!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #88 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 03:48 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,744
Not Ranked     
Default

OK for clarity. As Dimis said its a Contemporary of guess 87-88 Vintage. Was never advertised as generally most sort after cars aren't. Stef owned a car before this which was a Robnell which now resides in Qld which also was a lovely car. His contemporary has a very interesting history... but all legit. He didnt import it but Im not going into detail here. Though it did nearly get sent back to the good Ole USofA due to the car being purchased and on the water before pre-import approval had been approved. Was a right on the cusp of how things used to work and the crackdown but its still in its own right completely legit and legal.
I'll say it again, take your time, talk to clubs and cobra meets and do your research quietly and people will assist. The guy who bought Stefs latest car chased it for over a year.... it wont be sold again for quite a while.
Reply With Quote
  #89 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 03:51 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,744
Not Ranked     
Default

Name:  091213_COBRA_0044.jpg
Views: 158
Size:  98.4 KB Stef old Robnell
Rob. Smith likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #90 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 05:28 PM
xb-60's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 6,748
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraAddict View Post
.....The more I learn the more I realise I dont know
That means you've learnt a lot, my friend, so well done! It's an important milestone and means that the mistakes you'll make along the way will be smaller and less expensive

Cheers!
Glen
Reply With Quote
  #91 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 06:09 PM
xb-60's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 6,748
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraAddict View Post
Has anyone ever tried to simply import a US Cobra into Australia?.....
Yes, I started to go down that path back in 2011 before I decided it was too hard, and went local (PACE).

What I found was, as has been stated previously, that the car had to be '89 build or older. As I looked into it further, I found that it would also need to be converted to RHD, which was going to cause me way too many problems. The car was an ERA 427 with a 427SO, but being an ERA, it was built so that the left side of the interior was wider than the right side, and from memory, the engine was slightly offset to the right as well. I spoke at length to Peter Portante about the mods needed, and it was just way too expensive to contemplate.

Bear in mind though ....I'm in Adelaide, and the requirements are different State to State, and as you're also finding out, they can change periodically as well.

We will all stay tuned!

Cheers,
Glen
Reply With Quote
  #92 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2020, 07:13 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,744
Not Ranked     
Default

Have a read here https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/ve...ports/new.aspx

Ive never heard of the LHD/RHD conversion being required. Might be SA specific but dunno. Certainly not at the time in NSW QLD or Vico.

The real issue is proving the vehicles age with supporting docs to get pre-import approval while at the same time NOT handing money over for the car because if the GOV knocks you back you own a car you cant get into the country. Most have been done through 3rd parties who sight/know the car, know its providence and have the docs to prove it. Makes the wait a little less intense.

Its all even harder now as people bastardised the system (aka bringing in FFR made in mid 2000's but claiming its a 65) as well as the issues over proving it has no asbestos etc etc. Those who falsely imported cars as 65's are being sighted at car shows and the like and being told to come into the DOT PITS for inspection to prove their age. Babummmm.

And lastly, pre 89 cars are rare on the ground per capita of ownershop. Contemporary yes has a few, ERA maybe as well. Had there been more I can guarantee there'd have been someone specialising in bringing in those cars here but there's not enough to go around to make it viable.

All the loop holes have been tried. Stay on track and do it legit. There are a few expensive cobra sized paper weights sitting in garages around Oz atm.
Jaydee likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #93 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2020, 04:22 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spookypt View Post
OK for clarity. As Dimis said its a Contemporary of guess 87-88 Vintage. Was never advertised as generally most sort after cars aren't. Stef owned a car before this which was a Robnell which now resides in Qld which also was a lovely car. His contemporary has a very interesting history... but all legit. He didnt import it but Im not going into detail here. Though it did nearly get sent back to the good Ole USofA due to the car being purchased and on the water before pre-import approval had been approved. Was a right on the cusp of how things used to work and the crackdown but its still in its own right completely legit and legal.
I'll say it again, take your time, talk to clubs and cobra meets and do your research quietly and people will assist. The guy who bought Stefs latest car chased it for over a year.... it wont be sold again for quite a while.
Yes I had spoken to Dimis about this fellow before. Didn't realise it was the same guy. Both cars are lovely. I didnt realise we even have such authentic cars in Oz. I haven't seen any this good in terms of authenticity yet in Victoria or at at least the car shows I rock up at where Cobra's are present. It gives me greater hope thnat I may yet be able to find a ready built one to my liking when I am ready with cash in hand to buy.
That blue one I would have bought in a heartbeat, even being a LHD I dont think would have stopped me

Also learned something new again today. All about 'The Contemporary Classic Motor Company' who I had never heard of until now. What great cars they had made. Esp[ecially for the purist nuts like me
Reply With Quote
  #94 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2020, 04:28 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60 View Post
That means you've learnt a lot, my friend, so well done! It's an important milestone and means that the mistakes you'll make along the way will be smaller and less expensive

Cheers!
Glen
Do I get a gold star I know I still have a long way to go yet but am enjoying the journey very much so far. Just received a book I bought a month ago now off eBay from the UK. 'Shelby Cobra, The Snake that Conquered the World' by Colin Comer. Only had a chance to skip through it atm but it does look like a great read.

Also found a new benchmark car for me to consider copying, CSX3025.... lovely
Reply With Quote
  #95 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2020, 04:44 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60 View Post
Yes, I started to go down that path back in 2011 before I decided it was too hard, and went local (PACE).

What I found was, as has been stated previously, that the car had to be '89 build or older. As I looked into it further, I found that it would also need to be converted to RHD, which was going to cause me way too many problems. The car was an ERA 427 with a 427SO, but being an ERA, it was built so that the left side of the interior was wider than the right side, and from memory, the engine was slightly offset to the right as well. I spoke at length to Peter Portante about the mods needed, and it was just way too expensive to contemplate.

Bear in mind though ....I'm in Adelaide, and the requirements are different State to State, and as you're also finding out, they can change periodically as well.

We will all stay tuned!

Cheers,
Glen

OOOhhh yeah. I've recently downloaded my quick start guide of 99 pages called 'Interim arrangements - Guidance relating to specialist and enthusiast vehicles' produced by 'Road Vehicle Standards' under the Dept of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications of the Australian Government.

It replaced the old 'Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989' What a headf.,k

Bottom line it is very doubtful that the car will be classed as pre-89 unless it is actually a pre 89 build. Also the fact that I am not importing a car that I actually owned for 12 months while OS makes it much harder again.

Realistically I doubt very much I will be importing a car from the USA.

Last edited by CobraAddict; 04-28-2020 at 05:01 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #96 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2020, 04:56 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spookypt View Post
Have a read here https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/ve...ports/new.aspx

Ive never heard of the LHD/RHD conversion being required. Might be SA specific but dunno. Certainly not at the time in NSW QLD or Vico.

The real issue is proving the vehicles age with supporting docs to get pre-import approval while at the same time NOT handing money over for the car because if the GOV knocks you back you own a car you cant get into the country. Most have been done through 3rd parties who sight/know the car, know its providence and have the docs to prove it. Makes the wait a little less intense.

Its all even harder now as people bastardised the system (aka bringing in FFR made in mid 2000's but claiming its a 65) as well as the issues over proving it has no asbestos etc etc. Those who falsely imported cars as 65's are being sighted at car shows and the like and being told to come into the DOT PITS for inspection to prove their age. Babummmm.

And lastly, pre 89 cars are rare on the ground per capita of ownershop. Contemporary yes has a few, ERA maybe as well. Had there been more I can guarantee there'd have been someone specialising in bringing in those cars here but there's not enough to go around to make it viable.

All the loop holes have been tried. Stay on track and do it legit. There are a few expensive cobra sized paper weights sitting in garages around Oz atm.

I have been pouring through that webiste recently and yes as far as I can tell you can have LHD. Indeed you see allot more classic LHD yank tanks nowadays on our roads such as Mustangs, Chevy's, Buicks, Cadallacs etc and at club meets. The issue now appears to be, is the car a pre or post 89 build car ? Especially now with the new 'Interim arrangements - Guidance relating to specialist and enthusiast vehicles' which replaces the old 'Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989' The new arrangements commenced 10 December 2019. I plan to ask Superformance if this will effect their business at all when bringing in the rolling chassis!?

Last edited by CobraAddict; 04-28-2020 at 05:01 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #97 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2020, 06:19 PM
xb-60's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 6,748
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraAddict View Post
.... I plan to ask Superformance if this will effect their business at all when bringing in the rolling chassis!?
Would be prudent to also seek advice regarding registration compliance from an independent person....

Cheers,
Glen
Reply With Quote
  #98 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2020, 06:04 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Darwin, NT
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival Kobra,LS7 427
Posts: 380
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraAddict View Post
I have been pouring through that webiste recently and yes as far as I can tell you can have LHD. Indeed you see allot more classic LHD yank tanks nowadays on our roads such as Mustangs, Chevy's, Buicks, Cadallacs etc and at club meets. The issue now appears to be, is the car a pre or post 89 build car ? Especially now with the new 'Interim arrangements - Guidance relating to specialist and enthusiast vehicles' which replaces the old 'Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989' The new arrangements commenced 10 December 2019. I plan to ask Superformance if this will effect their business at all when bringing in the rolling chassis!?
Your only interested in club rego so none of this matters to you. Its only an issue when you want full rego. You can import a rolling chassis no problem. You can import a LHD cobra no problem as you are not getting it registered. Mind you, you wont be able to sell it for much as it wont be able to be registered by the new owner.
Superformance import kits for customers who want full rego so its not an issue, as they will go thru the engineering/approval process
You can buy a superformance kit and put want you want in it as you are ONLY interested in club rego so you dont need to worry about this compliance stuff.

Last edited by alffie; 04-30-2020 at 06:09 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #99 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2020, 04:49 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2,744
Not Ranked     
Default

Bit like a race car without a cams/aasa log book tbh. Really limits your overall participation and difficult to sell for $'s going forward.
Reply With Quote
  #100 (permalink)  
Old 05-01-2020, 02:01 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 71
Not Ranked     
Default

Thats one of the things I do like about the superformance. You dont have to do allot to it to get full rego if I choose to do so. Assuming of course I add cats etc to the engine.

I've had and sold a couple of cars on CP and honestly still got the same money for them. Its very suprising how free you are to drive even on a CP at least in Vic. I just dont see the big need to have it on full rego. Its not as if these things are ever going to be a daily driver
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy