This ain’t right

fastd · #1 (**permalink**) 09-02-2020, 08:36 AM

I hate to be political on the forum but you’re the only Australians that I know and it seems important enough:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/pregnant-c...090657423.html

t walgamuth · #2 (**permalink**) 09-02-2020, 11:19 AM

What no freedom of speech there?

PeterAllen · #3 (**permalink**) 09-02-2020, 05:26 PM

It is right.

There is a cultural difference here. We prefer the advice of our Chief Medical Officer rather than ...

What pregnant woman wouldn't adhere to medical based instructions on the issue.

xb-60 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-02-2020, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterAllen

It is right.

There is a cultural difference here. We prefer the advice of our Chief Medical Officer rather than ...

What pregnant woman wouldn't adhere to medical based instructions on the issue.

Peter is correct. There are specific laws covering planned protests against covid restrictions, laws that everyone is aware of.
Victoria, and in particular the greater Melbourne area, is struggling to contain the pandemic. Some do not recognise how serious the situation is.

Cheers,
Glen

KDubU · #5 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 04:13 AM

How each country deals with the COVID situation is up to them. Australia has done a pretty good job overall and they have put in place laws to help keep it that way. It’s not easy but the numbers show which countries are doing it right or wrong. This is not rocket science on how to curb and hopefully contain the virus and keep in mind this is not going away anytime soon. We are over six months in and you can expect this will continue for another twelve at least so the numbers today will be a lot higher then. Vaccines only do so much and are never 100%, plus there are supply issues and some people who will refuse it altogether.

Dimis · #6 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 04:40 AM

I personally wouldn't have been able to arrest this person (pregnant or not, woman or man).

My values wouldn't have allowed me to...
Not trying to change anyone's mind.

Feel free to pile on and flame away...

Dimis · #7 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterAllen

It is right.

There is a cultural difference here. We prefer the advice of our Chief Medical Officer rather than ...

What pregnant woman wouldn't adhere to medical based instructions on the issue.

But what if they're wrong?
They are after all only human.

Gav · #8 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 05:05 AM

That whole clip was staged imho.
Even though the police have agreed it happened it's just a stunt to try and stop people protesting this weekend.

xb-60 · #9 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gav

That whole clip was staged imho.
Even though the police have agreed it happened it's just a stunt to try and stop people protesting this weekend.

I don't quite follow that. It may well have been staged (note the comments of the person behind the phone/camera) but I doubt it was staged by the police.

bobcowan · #10 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 06:56 AM

And now you know why so many people want to come to America. Despite all of our restrictions, we are still the freest country the planet has ever seen.

cycleguy55 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bobcowan

And now you know why so many people want to come to America. Despite all of our restrictions, we are still the freest country the planet has ever seen.

Not everyone agrees.

Cato Institute: https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new

The jurisdictions that took the top 10 places, in order, were New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Luxembourg (tied in 6th place), Finland and Germany (tied in 8th place), and Ireland. Selected countries rank as follows: Sweden (11), United Kingdom (14), United States (15), Taiwan (19), Japan (25), South Korea (27), Chile (28), France (33), South Africa (64), Argentina (77), Mexico (92), India (94), Brazil (109), Russia (114), Turkey (122), China (126), Saudi Arabia (149), Iran (154), Egypt (157), Venezuela (161), and Syria (162).

World Population Review ranks USA 17th: https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...eest-countries

Heritage.org ranks USA 17th: https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

The United States’ economic freedom score is 76.6, making its economy the 17th freest in the 2020 Index. Its overall score has decreased by 0.2 point due primarily to a lower trade freedom score. The United States is ranked 3rd among 32 countries in the Americas region, and its overall score is well above the regional and world averages.

2020 World Press Freedom Index lists USA 45th: https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table

saki302 · #12 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 11:17 AM

If they're listing Hong Kong as top ten, I see an issue right there.

Protest the ccp right now and see how fast you get arrested ��

NROTOXIN · #13 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saki302

If they're listing Hong Kong as top ten, I see an issue right there.

Protest the ccp right now and see how fast you get arrested ��

The Hong Kong data is from 2019, so data is accurate for it's time.

cycleguy55 · #14 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NROTOXIN

The Hong Kong data is from 2019, so data is accurate for it's time.

Good point. There's always a lag between measuring, compilation and reporting, and Hong Kong would certainly be a good example of how things can quickly change.

Treeve · #15 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimis

But what if they're wrong?
They are after all only human.

They are after all only a highly informed, educated, experienced and resourced human. Who is much less likely to be wrong than you or I on the subject

Modena · #16 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 09:23 PM

I come here for Cobra talk. If you want to talk political **** go use facebook

Treeve · #17 (**permalink**) 09-03-2020, 10:42 PM

Can't, it's blocked where I work.

bobcowan · #18 (**permalink**) 09-04-2020, 07:16 AM

Notice how Australia is listed as #5. Isn't this event occurring in Australia?

And socialist Canada is listed as #4?

Somehow, I don't think that list means much.

t walgamuth · #19 (**permalink**) 09-04-2020, 08:12 AM

The US is still seen as the land of opportunity. People want to come here. I think they also want to go other place like the UK, Canada and Australia.

If I could choose where I was born I might like to try Canada if not for the cold and the fact that all of my family pretty much is here or near here.

ERA174 · #20 (**permalink**) 09-04-2020, 06:35 PM

I agree with Modena, this is a Cobra forum, not a political platform. Politics and religion are best discussed elsewhere, not something I'm looking to enlighten myself with here, nor does it enhance my cobra. Further more, in todays digital age reality can be manipulated to portray curcumstances to reflect someones agendas rather than reality. So, we all need to vet what we are being fed via the media and elsewhere to verify we're not being duped for someones agenda. It's easy to present something out of context or for someone to portray infrequent incidents as the norm and vise versa the norm as infrequent. We all need to do our due diligence before we pass something along as fact or we are not being responsible.