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05-04-2006, 01:39 AM
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Side Pipes
Nassty, I hear what you're saying but if we are all encouraged to think on a global front wouldn't we be better off lobbying the powers that be to allow working SP's??? By this I mean if the HOT ROD fraternity can get their working side pipes plus a host of other "legal mods" OK'd, then why can't we.
It seems crazy as hot rods are all one offs. A modded cut and shut illegal derivitive of a once legal street car. None were ever homologenised in their respective HOT ROD form. In fact the truth be known they were illegal when these guys modded their cars 30 years ago!
My way of thinking is that at least Cobras were a real production run and all we're doing is trying to recreate what actually was???
This is off thread/topic I know, but I for one will be running working side pipes and will also prepared the results. I guess if you know what you create is illegal according to the ADR rules then you can't complain when you get pinged!
Nassty, sadly you're so right though... it only takes one inspector to create havoc for many!
Just my 2cents worth.
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05-04-2006, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spookypt
Nassty, I hear what you're saying but if we are all encouraged to think on a global front wouldn't we be better off lobbying the powers that be to allow working SP's??? By this I mean if the HOT ROD fraternity can get their working side pipes plus a host of other "legal mods" OK'd, then why can't we.
It seems crazy as hot rods are all one offs. A modded cut and shut illegal derivitive of a once legal street car. None were ever homologenised in their respective HOT ROD form. In fact the truth be known they were illegal when these guys modded their cars 30 years ago!
My way of thinking is that at least Cobras were a real production run and all we're doing is trying to recreate what actually was???
This is off thread/topic I know, but I for one will be running working side pipes and will also prepared the results. I guess if you know what you create is illegal according to the ADR rules then you can't complain when you get pinged!
Nassty, sadly you're so right though... it only takes one inspector to create havoc for many!
Just my 2cents worth.
Spookypt
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I agree with you too Spookypt re lobbying. That's been discussed many times. ATM though, changing the regs in the near future doesn't appear to be likely so we all have to make do with the current regs.
I'm not saying that modding is bad. All I'm saying is I think it would be better for cobras to be more subtle about their mods so as to not attract undue attention from the boys in blue. Loud doesn't necessarily equal fast. 400TT proved that at Shelby Fest 06. He was the quietest cobra there yet he was also the quickest.
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05-04-2006, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
Loud doesn't necessarily equal fast. 400TT proved that at Shelby Fest 06. He was the quietest cobra there yet he was also the quickest.
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Except for the blow-off valve, it was the noisest part. You could only hear it because the exhaust was silent. And it's all road legal, would be one of the few on that track that could say that. Even the turbo is approved. Also don't confuse me as the driver(my brother), I doubt I could pedal that Cobra that quick around the track. It scares me enough on the road.
Moves are happening up here in QLD already about getting changes made to the reg's. Les is involved in it. We've been basically backed into a corner by all the regulations in recent years and have little to lose, so are having our say.
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05-04-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 400TT
Except for the blow-off valve, it was the noisest part. You could only hear it because the exhaust was silent. And it's all road legal, would be one of the few on that track that could say that. Even the turbo is approved. Also don't confuse me as the driver(my brother), I doubt I could pedal that Cobra that quick around the track. It scares me enough on the road.
Moves are happening up here in QLD already about getting changes made to the reg's. Les is involved in it. We've been basically backed into a corner by all the regulations in recent years and have little to lose, so are having our say.
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From the drivers seat the blow off may be loud but from trackside it sounded like a gentle sneeze.
It's great that Les is looking into the issue! I'm sure he'll jump on this thread soon with some updates.
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05-05-2006, 03:33 PM
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I have been reading everybodies comments about side pipes but can anybody tell me if you can actually get your car registered with working side pipes. It appears from most of the commemts that you have to register the vehicle with under body pipes, them install working pipes after reg.
Rod
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05-05-2006, 09:50 PM
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Roda,
In a word. No.
It is hard enough with an underbody exhaust to get down to the legal limits, but with side pipes you also are firing the noise sideways too. I do not think the RTA likes hot exhausts near a doorway either.
Ben
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05-06-2006, 02:12 AM
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but can anybody tell me if you can actually get your car registered with working side pipes.
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In Queensland the only thing I know that stops us is you can't have exhaust exiting from passenger side of vehicle. So in theory you can have 1 x drivers side pipe. The same way that some flatbed trucks have exhaust exiting to drivers side behind the cab.
This rule can also get you even if your exhaust exits at the rear. If the tail pipe twists towards the passenger side, then it is illegal. This is a pretty common thing on grey imports, so they have to modify the tail pipe to get them approved.
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05-06-2006, 02:39 AM
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Side pipes
I could be wrong but I believe the Robnell Cobras were registered with live side pipes on both sides.
The pipes were well heat shielded and exhaust turn outs pointed to the ground.
Cheers,
Bryan
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