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Old 10-14-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Cobra Compliancing - Often talked about..

I know it is often talked about but I am wondering if there is any move to try and legislate under ICV's to revise our compliancing under a national body like the Hot Rodders... We are an industry in our own right so could we ever do it and has anyone ever tried..

It just seems nuts that based on a piece of paper that our cars are not replicas pre-1949 that we can't legislate the same way as the Rod guys. What about applying for an exemption to that date?

I dunno I'm just testing the water. I saw a T bucket on the weekend with all the things we want in our cars but side x side we aren't legally allowed to do it!!

It's just seems crazy to me...

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Hey Spook,

Something underway....early stages as yet....sent you a PM
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Something underway....early stages as yet....sent you a PM

I found some relevant information and passed it onto to Neil Streeting. Hope he brings it up at the next NSW meeting.

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Spooky, Thanks for bringing this subject to the fore again.

If you search back you'll find plenty of comment from me about this very subject.

I do know John Staszynski has been doing heaps of work towards some goal which I understand is to have Cobra construction removed from an ICV classification. However, I don't know what other classification the authorities can/would plonk us into.

I have a preference for something like the Hot Rod system as it is controlled by the hot rod association. I think any changes we make should recognize that ADR's march on and become increasingly more difficult to comply so whatever we do needs to exempt us from ADR obligation.

I suspect a modernized version of the hot rod system would be relatively easy to document using the hot rod model and include some of the movers and shakers who originally had input to that system.

Whatever happens would be too late for me but I do care that the building of a cobra remain a feasable project for future builders.
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Just bolt on a simple Hot rod "T" bucket style body to register you car and then drop the cobra body on later.

Who's to stop you modifying your body shell after registration?

Sounds too simple but it shows what a stupid system we have for ICV's in every state.
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Lobelly has done a heap of work getting the Cobra Car Club of Victoria registered for the CH plate system. This gives a lot of folks who have cars that won't pass the ICV route an option to get their cars on the road.

I think this system has some possibilities. The CH plate system allows you to drive to club events, take your car to the mechanic etc which is a bit limited. However if this policy could be changed to a limited use system i.e 90 days a year of driving or 6000KM on the clock or something like that I reckon it would satisfy the majority of Cobra owners.

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Currently, the ADR's that cause the most problems are noise and emissions as these ADR's affect the soul and engine choice of a cobra respectively.

The remaining ADR's generally reflect safety standards and are not difficult to pass as our Cobra manufacturers have/should have done all the chassis tests etc etc already.

To me the real concern is that safety equipment such as ABS, traction control, stability control and air bags become incorporated into the ADR web.

However, competition in the market place sees such safety devices already incorporated into many new vehicles as standard equipment. For a mass car producer not to do so would equal losing market share to their competitors, who do include such things as standard equipment. As such, I don't really think there would be a strong political case to include such safety devices into ADR's as it's already happening.

Also, the fact that ICV's are produced in such small numbers may keep perceived changes to ADR's under the radar.

That said, all it takes is some pen pusher wanting to justify the existance of their job, to start stuffing it all up for ICV owners everywhere!
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The fun police will stuff it up in the end they allways do.

90 days a year would be more than enough for most drivers I would think. I bet ther would be a lot of fully registered cars that get driven a lot less.

Here's another thought.

Ship your car to the UK $3,000 as a race car register under SVC to get UK rego say about another $1,000 and then bring the car back as a personal import $3,000.

Then just run it over the pits to check lights and wipers etc and get your local state rego.

The UK are fairly fussy but nowhere near as much as here.
They can still run carbies and live side pipes so that shows you how fussy they are.
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