Race Car Taking Shape

spookypt · #1 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 06:50 PM

Craig and Phil, the main reasons for the auto were $'s. Not to mention the auto set up was race proven! Clutches are expensive and boxes costly to replace. With the auto we can swap the valve bodies etc pretty quick and throw in a new auto (from stock) fairly quickly and with limited expense. Although everything costs as we all know. May not be as much fun (?) but for now for me the least amount of things I need to concentrate on the better... We are making this car safe first and quick 2nd. That's what I tell my wife to be anyway!!! It will have more than enough HP, HUGE brakes and great safety to make a good "Fun" package. It's all about maximising fun and cheap easy racing!!!

Now, as the forum is as good a place as any.....let it be well known to all that I am the Novice/Learner to this deal... I certainly make no claims to being anything but a bloke who wants to learn the art of driving fast and safe under Scotts guidance. I will be trying hard but only against myself to become quicker. Scotty certainly has his own goals.... and while lap times will no doubt be very very different, the quest for maximised fun and minimal cost is our joint focus and goal!

Yee haa, bring on the Nats...

P.S. I have to say that throughout the build fibreglassing and sanding has been my main chore.... I am HOPEFUL that the sander will soon be replaced with a spray gun and I won't EVER have to sand a car EVER again......

SpookyPT

400TT · #2 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:02 PM

Glad to see you use the "auto" word.

Yeah, we know why you went auto. A very smart choice for a lot of reasons.

Great news that you are coming to the end of the body work. It will totally transform once you get a coat of paint on it.

Philm · #3 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:03 PM

Matt,
The C4 in karens car is worth a lot more $$ than the TKO600 in mine.

The C4 will hold more torque, more power and the shifts are rediculously quick.

We are fitting one of the overdrives,

http://www.gearvendors.com/hrford3s.html

And that will give it a good legs on the freeway.

I am suggesting that an AOD or tricked up C4 would be an upgrade, but yes you are right once installed the running cost would be less than a manual.

Phil

400TT · #4 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:08 PM

Phil, these guys are using the basically throw away stock auto's that come with the Lexus engines. The price is definitely right and I'm suspecting OzVenom has a few said auto's laying around by now. I'm guessing a few mods and they are good to go.

Philm · #5 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:12 PM

Sounds like the boys have some fun times ahead.

I wonder how many replacement boxes will be in the trailer.

Yep can't wait for the nationals.

Phil

Aussie Mike · #6 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:12 PM

I've often thought a well setup Auto would be way better on the track. This was the thinking of some of the Can-Am engineers back in the 60's. I think Jim Hall ran an Auto in one of his Chaparal Can-Am cars. Someone can probably confirm this.

Anyway, my thinking is that with a modern auto using a converter with a sprag you would have very little engine braking. I reckon this is a good thing as you could power right up to your braking mark and then lift and have no engine breaking unsettling the balance of the car. You could then rely on your brakes to do the job they were designed for to pull you up.

With less things to concentrate on going into the corner i.e shifting down working the clutch etc you could maximise you braking and steering by giving it your full attention and then have a better chance of being on the right line going into the corner.

Cheers

spookypt · #7 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:39 PM

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With less things to concentrate on going into the corner i.e shifting down working the clutch etc you could maximise you braking and steering by giving it your full attention and then have a better chance of being on the right line going into the corner.

Cheers[/quote]

THEORY WORKS FOR ME MIKE!!!

P.S. Did ya find that body!!??

Aussie Mike · #8 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:57 PM

There's roller in the current Unique cars but it looks like it's based on the a Crown chassis and the proportions are all wrong to my eye.

Cheers

acecob · #9 (**permalink**) 06-16-2008, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philm

Matt,
The C4 in karens car is worth a lot more $$ than the TKO600 in mine.

The C4 will hold more torque, more power and the shifts are rediculously quick.

We are fitting one of the overdrives,

http://www.gearvendors.com/hrford3s.html

And that will give it a good legs on the freeway.

I am suggesting that an AOD or tricked up C4 would be an upgrade, but yes you are right once installed the running cost would be less than a manual.

Phil

Looks like the overdrive alone is worth more than a TK0600 mr miz

Geeeez

OZVENOM · #10 (**permalink**) 06-28-2008, 03:51 AM

Its slow but going forward matt and i spent a few hours sanding the body back for paint on weds nite got some filling to do and a bit of putty to throw around but its getting closer sent the dump off for coating this week once its back i should be able to see if goes still . had to put on the spare turbo after a quick inspection of the original showed lots of end float and bearing damage not sure what caused it .
will have to keep a lose eye on that the only other turbos i have are bigger and we dont want to have to use them do we wazza.

I have a couple of 700 hp and a gt45 which is rated to 1000hp more suited to drag racing .
still lots to do hope to get it painted next weekend.
just got to find the 4" brush and roller.

oz.

Wazza · #11 (**permalink**) 06-28-2008, 05:09 AM

we dont want to have to use them do we wazza.

Wazza has other things to worry about at the moment.

Wazza is sitting at his Mum's place up at Ipswich, where he had arranged an overnight visit, because he was going to be racing all weekend at Queensland Raceway.

Wazza is feeling VERY low at the moment.....got 5 laps into this mornings practice session, and lost a lobe off the cam......GUTTED !!

Gotta love Motor Racing haven't ya ?

BT SNAKE · #12 (**permalink**) 06-28-2008, 08:50 AM

Bugger ! Wazza. Whos fault was it ? The driver or the engine?

It's amazing what magic scotty can do in that shed.

A very interesting thread about those auto transmissions.

Hersh

OZVENOM · #13 (**permalink**) 06-29-2008, 07:17 AM

Wazza you make me sad now i know how hard you try and you just keep getting kicked in the nuts you must have balls of titanium to keep going back .
I am not sure even a lexus v8 could stand up your pace but i tell you what wazza i will give you a lexus v8 to put in you car
i will even make the adaptor plate to mate it up to the gear box for you The rest i can advise you on i even have a turbo
You can have too. This is a serious offer . I just want to see you get some laps in so you have no excuses when Matt kicks you butt.
Hey Hersh you have too let me know you plans and dates for RNG see if i can get over for it.
Regards oz.