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Cashburn 11-16-2011 04:07 PM

BDR1049 - Gets Blown in the Speed Lab
 
Ryan's BDR1049 is about to go back to dyno for final test and tune. He picked it up a few months ago with a nice little Ford Racing 306 crate engine. Brought it back to us 2 weeks ago for a Weiand 174 Series supercharger install. Waiting for the weather to clear so we can drive out of the parking lot...



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peters44 11-16-2011 06:54 PM

Jay it sounds and looks good.
What is the HP gain?
Does this also increase the torque?

Peter

Cashburn 11-16-2011 07:33 PM

We baseline dynoed it at 300 rwhp. Will see what it makes now. Current pulley is making 4 psi. We have another pulley to try 6 psi. Key is to keep it safe and driveable. This setup on a 302 (short deck) is with no hood modifications.

fordracing65 11-16-2011 08:08 PM

Thats bad ass, I love power adders and so do ford small blocks, sweet ride.

dallas_ 11-17-2011 11:16 AM

Cool, looking forward to seeing the results.

Nice work on the plumbing also. Looks clean and professional.

SpecOp1 11-17-2011 02:49 PM

Great looking car Jay....have a SC in 1063 future ...but down the road....cant wait to see dyno numbers...Bill

fordracing65 11-17-2011 03:42 PM

I say 350wrhp with a ton more tq where it will matter. :)

Cashburn 11-19-2011 11:26 AM

413 RWHP without the air cleaner. We need to find a better air intake system. Torque is a straight line and 381 peak.

Also have a fuel supply issue to sort out.

aa909 11-19-2011 08:05 PM

Wow, a 30%+ increase is impressive. Not what I would have guessed.. Nice

madmaxx 11-19-2011 08:27 PM

413 rwhp, come on now

fordracing65 11-19-2011 08:40 PM

Nice numbers, I was way off.

Cashburn 11-20-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmaxx (Post 1162276)
413 rwhp, come on now

Once we get it adjusted I will post the chart.

Cashburn 11-20-2011 01:29 AM

That carb hat is too low profile for the carb with a choke. We determined a 9" extreme filter will clear if we trim the hood opening under the the scoop. Imagine a turkey pan setup without the turkey pan ;)

RICK LAKE 11-20-2011 01:35 AM

If you re looking for more power
 
Cashburn Jay If you are looking for more power with getting crazy Look at the Snow water mister system. You can run a 50/50 of water alcohol raise the timing, lower combustion temps and pickup another 40-50 HP and 30-40 FT of torque with only timing and jet change. An A/F meter would be hiden for checking the setup at cruise to not have a lean out. The other thing is blower bang, Don't run the motor at WOT and then shut down the throttle to idle. Does the blower have a small blow up valve? If so then you are all right. Heat is not your friend. Adding a couple of small blowers to the fender ducts will help remove some of it to cool down under the hood. Nice setup Good luck Rick L.

Cashburn 11-20-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE (Post 1162297)
Cashburn Jay If you are looking for more power with getting crazy Look at the Snow water mister system. You can run a 50/50 of water alcohol raise the timing, lower combustion temps and pickup another 40-50 HP and 30-40 FT of torque with only timing and jet change. An A/F meter would be hiden for checking the setup at cruise to not have a lean out. The other thing is blower bang, Don't run the motor at WOT and then shut down the throttle to idle. Does the blower have a small blow up valve? If so then you are all right. Heat is not your friend. Adding a couple of small blowers to the fender ducts will help remove some of it to cool down under the hood. Nice setup Good luck Rick L.

Thanks Rick. We seem good on temps. Of course we are not testing at 95 degrees this time of year. The Snow setup is something we were talking about the other day. I think that would be phase 3 for the customer. The most amazing thing we saw on the dyno was a nearly level torque line from 3800-6000 rpm.

Mark IV 11-20-2011 10:22 AM

Is that the M-6007-X302 engine?

Ford says this under the info for that motor...

IMPORTANT WARRANTY INFORMATION! Power-adders such as superchargers, turbos, or nitrous not recommended. Use of power-adders voids the warranty. See Ford Racing Boss series of crate engines such as M-6007-X302B or M-6007-X302E if you plan power-adder enhancements

Ford Racing Performance Parts

Cashburn 11-20-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1162328)
Is that the M-6007-X302 engine?

Ford says this under the info for that motor...

IMPORTANT WARRANTY INFORMATION! Power-adders such as superchargers, turbos, or nitrous not recommended. Use of power-adders voids the warranty. See Ford Racing Boss series of crate engines such as M-6007-X302B or M-6007-X302E if you plan power-adder enhancements

Ford Racing Performance Parts

What is your point?

Mark IV 11-20-2011 01:46 PM

Juat asking if that is the engine. I am sure if so the cutomer is aware of the change in waranty.

Just want to know which Ford Racing 306 it is. I normally would not post in he BDR area as I don't belong here, but it is the only way to ask this question. Perhaps Ford is being a little cautious with the 306 if it can handle a supercharger.

Honest Jay, no agenda.

Cashburn 11-20-2011 03:20 PM

Customer is aware. This kit is designed for a stock bottom, it's up to you how you pulley it. This was an add on when the customer said "please sir, may I have some more.". The car already had 2k miles or so.

Since we are the installer we assume the liability.

Have nothing against you posting here at all. Did not take it that way. The Ford warranty is only as good as the installer as I am sure you know, and that motor is an incredible value when you see some of the parts used inside.

We will likely pull it back a little in the end to keep it balanced. You would not believe the driving experience before and after...

Mark IV 11-20-2011 04:40 PM

[quote=Cashburn;1162351].

I am sure you know, and that motor is an incredible value when you see some of the parts used inside.

QUOTE]

Jay,

Quite agree. We are delivering a roadster model to Boston next week with that engine which is why I asked. The car is an anniversary gift to his wife who "has always wanted one" and I doubt she will want/need more scoot. Just wanted to know if that was the engine and how it held up.


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