Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > BackDraft Racing ---

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 05:32 PM
Registered User
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 1
Not Ranked     
Default Researching my next toy. Coyote 5.0?

Hello Gang,
I've been a fanatic of 47-72 Chevy & Ford Trucks for a long time and since I'v owned over 40 of them. My new found passion is 65 Shelby's Cobras. Since, I've own so many carburetor powered classic trucks in the past, I would like to take a break from the fumes/hassles, and get something fuel injected. I decided that I definitely want a Backdraft because of the modern the Coyote engines they put in them and their Blacked Out Packages.

What is your opinions regarding these type of modern style cobra's?
Are these type of builds sought after or looked down on in the "Shelby World"?

I have a huge following in the classic truck world, if you want to see some of my cool trucks. Just google my username. " MIAYOTA"

If anyone is selling one that is a few years old, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 05:59 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Memphis, TN
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1867 , KC427
Posts: 429
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miayota View Post
Hello Gang,
I've been a fanatic of 47-72 Chevy & Ford Trucks for a long time and since I'v owned over 40 of them. My new found passion is 65 Shelby's Cobras. Since, I've own so many carburetor powered classic trucks in the past, I would like to take a break from the fumes/hassles, and get something fuel injected. I decided that I definitely want a Backdraft because of the modern the Coyote engines they put in them and their Blacked Out Packages.

What is your opinions regarding these type of modern style cobra's?
Are these type of builds sought after or looked down on in the "Shelby World"?

I have a huge following in the classic truck world, if you want to see some of my cool trucks. Just google my username. " MIAYOTA"

If anyone is selling one that is a few years old, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!
Welcome to the forum Miayota. First things first these are 99% replica or kit cars so to heck with what people think.

I have no experience with a coyote platform but I can only assume it is awesome. If you can get over the car not have the pushrod thumping sound at idle then I say go for it. It is really hard to beat a modern fuel injected platform such as the coyote. My assumption is that the throttle response and overall driveability is heads and shoulders above most of the Windsor and FE platforms. You pretty much don't have to worry about any cam surge, bucking ...or where is my motor going to produce the best power levels. Go ahead and throw a twin screw supercharger like a VMP or Whipple and be done with it. You could make insane power and get double the gas mileage of the traditional setup. I recommend you touch base with Jay at Vintage Motorsports as they seem to be the leaders in coyote development.

With the above being said I love my carbed old school motor but if I honest a supercharged coyote would trounce it and be a better drivers car.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 06:03 PM
fordracing65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
Posts: 2,520
Send a message via Skype™ to fordracing65
Not Ranked     
Default

I had a coyote engine in my surperformance with a 6 speed transmission. It drives like a modern engine would. Starts right up drives mild in any condition. Go drive a new mustang and that's what it will be. With a different body.
__________________
PRIDEnJOY
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 09:06 PM
BADSN8K's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: PORT LAVACA, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: BD 1445 Coyote TKO 600 3.91
Posts: 109
Not Ranked     
Default Coyote

I love mine...

here is a link

https://youtu.be/rgyOCmeAJ-0

BTW

No offense but driving a new Mustang is not like driving a Cobra......
__________________
Life begins at 6000 RPM's
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2016, 03:42 AM
fordracing65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
Posts: 2,520
Send a message via Skype™ to fordracing65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BADSN8K View Post
I love mine...

here is a link

https://youtu.be/rgyOCmeAJ-0

BTW

No offense but driving a new Mustang is not like driving a Cobra......
My car drove like a mustang with a different body on it. Same engine same trans different body.
__________________
PRIDEnJOY
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-23-2016, 04:57 AM
jualwatt's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: New Hartford, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1134, Roushcharged Coyote Aluminator NA
Posts: 98
Not Ranked     
Default

No regrets here. Smooth idle is the only downside and ghost tunes may or may not cause issues? I was not taking any chances so skipped that. Having different programs to swap whenever you want is another advantage, not that I do it all the time (or ever), but nice to be able to.

Julian
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 08:34 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rockaway Twsp, NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft - Coyote
Posts: 56
Not Ranked     
Default

Coyote here. Why? Turn the key and go. It's reliable as heck. Built to modern standards that equates to not spending weekends under the hood like older technology could entail. I have two small kids and don't have the time for that anymore. Gas mileage is amazing. Has a higher RPM limit which sounds sweet at the top range. Also, don't get caught up in the horsepower race like I originally did. I don't care now if my engine doesn't dyno at 525 HP. There hasn't been one time where I wished I had more ponies. Remember that power-to-weight ratio plays an importanat role. These cars are 1200 pounds lighter than a Mustang.
Millsy likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 09:05 AM
Millsy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, LS3
Posts: 159
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tims210 View Post
Coyote here. Why? Turn the key and go. It's reliable as heck. Built to modern standards that equates to not spending weekends under the hood like older technology could entail. I have two small kids and don't have the time for that anymore. Gas mileage is amazing. Has a higher RPM limit which sounds sweet at the top range. Also, don't get caught up in the horsepower race like I originally did. I don't care now if my engine doesn't dyno at 525 HP. There hasn't been one time where I wished I had more ponies. Remember that power-to-weight ratio plays an importanat role. These cars are 1200 pounds lighter than a Mustang.
Same reasons i went with the coyote
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 09:55 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,442
Not Ranked     
Default

Great motor and it keeps getting better and better...

Here's What You Need To Know For Your Coyote Swap Project

Inside Ford Racing's New 5.2 Coyote Crate Engine A52XS
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 10:09 AM
fordracing65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
Posts: 2,520
Send a message via Skype™ to fordracing65
Not Ranked     
Default

I would put in the new gt350 engine. It will be available soon in the ford performance catalog.
x96535 likes this.
__________________
PRIDEnJOY
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 10:17 AM
cycleguy55's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City, SK
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
Posts: 2,852
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miayota View Post
Hello Gang,
I've been a fanatic of 47-72 Chevy & Ford Trucks for a long time and since I'v owned over 40 of them. My new found passion is 65 Shelby's Cobras. Since, I've own so many carburetor powered classic trucks in the past, I would like to take a break from the fumes/hassles, and get something fuel injected. I decided that I definitely want a Backdraft because of the modern the Coyote engines they put in them and their Blacked Out Packages.

What is your opinions regarding these type of modern style cobra's?
Are these type of builds sought after or looked down on in the "Shelby World"?

I have a huge following in the classic truck world, if you want to see some of my cool trucks. Just google my username. " MIAYOTA"

If anyone is selling one that is a few years old, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!
For sale:
1965 Shelby Cobra Backdraft Racing For Sale | Collector and Classic Cars For Sale | RK Motors Charlotte (2013)
Shelby Backdraft Cobra Roadster 1965 Black For Sale. AE9BMAAH8F1MT1051 New Backdraft Racing Cobra BDR RT3 5.0 liter Fuel Injected Coyote (new)
https://classics.autotrader.com/clas...lica/100746457 (new)
__________________
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 03:47 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fordracing65 View Post
I would put in the new gt350 engine. It will be available soon in the ford performance catalog.
Says who?
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 03:49 PM
Cashburn's Avatar
Backdraft Racing Dealer
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
Posts: 5,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Always interesting to see a car built in 2013 or later with CS signature on the dash...
cycleguy55 likes this.
__________________
IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S UNREAL.
VINTAGE MOTORSPORTS
888.427.1965 | www.vintagemotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 04:28 PM
fordracing65's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
Posts: 2,520
Send a message via Skype™ to fordracing65
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
Says who?
They sell the block and the heads right now. The car has only been out a few months. AMP performance in az has the crankshafts what else do you need. Build it. Or what till its in the catalogue.
__________________
PRIDEnJOY
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2016, 04:51 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,442
Not Ranked     
Default

I thing the A52XS will probably be that engine since it uses almost all the parts except the crank. See the link above. 314ci and 582hp is downright amazing for a NA motor on pump gas.

The crank is not available as of yet stand alone or in any assy.

Sorry MIAYOTA for hijacking your thread. The earlier Coyote 2011-14 412-435hp engines are great and should give you years of dependable smiles.

Last edited by spdbrake; 08-25-2016 at 02:01 PM.. Reason: Crank
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 08-25-2016, 09:18 AM
flyboy1997's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 229
Send a message via Yahoo to flyboy1997
Not Ranked     
Default Backdraft

I would probably part with my BD/Coyote but car is with its builder in Houston for some paint issues from new if Texas is not too far?
A Loaded build with PS & PB.
If interested I will PM you name & number where car is at present.

Wendell / Lynn
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 08-25-2016, 01:32 PM
YerDugliness's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: No city...only 118 residents in Manter, KS
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Auto Works body, Ron Godell Racecars chassis, 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 HO (converted to carb), W/C T-5, 3.73's in a Ford 9" Traction-Loc.
Posts: 812
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fordracing65 View Post
I would put in the new gt350 engine. It will be available soon in the ford performance catalog.
Isn't that the one with the flat-plane crank?

I ask b/c I had heard that they would not be available for a while...to make sure those who wanted a Shelby GT350 Mustang could get one.

I sure have heard great things about the power produced by this flat-plane crank 5.0...and now I see there is a 5.2L version, too? YEE-HAW!!!!!!

Cheers!

Dugly
__________________
YD,E./PNB

No names were changed to protect the innocent!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 08-25-2016, 01:41 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Miami, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft / Coyote Motor
Posts: 36
Not Ranked     
Default

Have any of you guys that have a backdraft with a coyote had any vibration problems.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 08-25-2016, 02:21 PM
Dimis's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne, Vic
Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
Posts: 2,286
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pm125 View Post
Have any of you guys that have a backdraft with a coyote had any vibration problems.
Compared to what? A 427 FE?
It's a cobra. Not a Rolls Royce

In my experience, I've no chance of deciphering little vibrations through all that rumbling.

Ps: good to see the forum is back up.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 08-25-2016, 02:46 PM
RodKnock's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,588
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis View Post
In my experience, I've no chance of deciphering little vibrations through all that rumbling.
And that folks is BEFORE Dimis starts his Cobra up.

I sure did miss the forum.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink