TK600 not going into gear

[genolan]

I'm having trouble getting the transmission into gear first thing in the morning. the temperature in Florida is in the mid 70's in the AM. It's hard to get into gear if not impossible with or without car running. Reverse is the hardest to engage. Once i get it going everything seems fine. This has happened two days in a row.
Any ideas would be helpful.
Thanks
Gary

[lnfletcher]

I'm assuming you have checked the clutch releasing fully?

[genolan]

I think so If i leave it in gear and release the clutch it's doesn't stall or move, Also if I depress the clutch in gear the car stops moving.

[lnfletcher]

It could still be dragging a little and not fully releasing. Clutch travel between the car starting to move and peddle fully up? Also, if cable, it could be stretched, if hydraulic, air in the line or low on fluid.
Fluid level in transmission?

Just throwing out suggestions.

If none of the easy stuff, it almost sounds like internal shift linkage loose or broken.

[nathanmargolis]

Go to the basics and bleed/flush the slave cylinder valve. Bet you that fixes the problem. My Backdraft is an earlier model in the 300 SN series and that has to be done every year for good operation. Just replaced the slave cylinder, too.

[Quentin Z]

Also check the slave bracket, some of these tend to bend over time. Here's a link to a short thread:
Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket

But, if you search "slave Bracket" you will find more. Mine is bent a little, but I just live with it. Also, my TKO 500 is harder to get in reverse, but I thought that was typical with all trans. Since yours varies with temp, I believe a good flush will solve your issue. Slave cylinders are cheap tho, the cross reference for mine is Beck-Arnley 072-8342 (fits 87-93 Mazda B2200)

[olddog]

If it will not go into gear with the engine stopped, it is not the clutch.

Now a transmission in a stopped car with engine off, can be stopped at a place where the teeth are not aligned. You should be able to find at least one gear that it will easily slide into. You should be able to rock the car and align any gear so that you can easily shift into that gear. If you cannot do this, then the problem is in the transmission.

If you can shift into and out of a gear with the engine stopped, start the engine and now it will not go into gear, that is the clutch not releasing or TOB dragging.

If it is the clutch, put it into gear with engine off. Start the engine, with the clutch fully depressed. Now slowly let off on the clutch and see how far off the floor the pedal is when the car starts to move. If it is the clutch not releasing, the car will start to move with the pedal slightly off the floor. If the pedal is near half way up, it is not a clutch adjustment issue.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by genolan

I'm having trouble getting the transmission into gear first thing in the morning. the temperature in Florida is in the mid 70's in the AM.

Well it ain't the freezing temps, that's for sure. Is this something that has just recently started? Usually a TKO slips in and out of gear easily, with the engine off, and you sitting in the passenger seat. The one exception to that is the reverse gear, and that can be ignored.

[6TNCRZY]

Do you hear or feel the gears grinding going into reverse? If so the clutch is not fully disengaging. Another possibility is the pilot bearing is causing the mainshaft to turn with the clutch disengaged.

[genolan]

It was the clutch slave

[TimG427]

When that happened to me the clutch slave was low on fluid.