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Old 04-03-2009, 06:29 PM
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It would be nice if a new car salesman would back out of this thread...

He seems to chime in on every thread to peddle his cars and get his free advertising...

If people want to do business with him that's their choice...

I truly believe you can get a great car for 30K. All of these cars, when you see one they are in great shape...you can't tell a used one from a new one. I would have bought used, but Backdraft (Custom Cars) undercut a local B/D dealer with a heck of a buy, (to sell a car!). Just remember, a used B/D normally will have had the original owner correct it's bugs. The bugs are still there, and it's wrong.

As you hear on this thread and others, don't expect a truly new car free of the same continual problems I have seen discussed for years here...in this market you a get a real bargain. Check with Gunrack.
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:47 PM
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It would be nice if a new car salesman would back out of this thread...

He seems to chime in on every thread to peddle his cars and get his free advertising...
It's the economy. People are hustling to make a buck like never before....
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I also don't buy into the fact that the consumer should allow the "bugs" in these cars such as a BDR or a superformance if they are turnkey cars.

These cars are in fact factory built on an assembly line,therefore all these bugs should have been rectified long ago.

A turnkey car should have none of these bugs as the dealer should be aware of them and they should correct before customer has too.

Bottom line the buyer is king at this time and economic stage,therfore shop around. E-bay or cobra country or Hemmings etc. If you look hard enough you will find your car and a good deal in my opinion.

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Old 04-05-2009, 04:58 PM
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It would be nice if a new car salesman would back out of this thread...

He seems to chime in on every thread to peddle his cars and get his free advertising...

If people want to do business with him that's their choice...

I truly believe you can get a great car for 30K. All of these cars, when you see one they are in great shape...you can't tell a used one from a new one. I would have bought used, but Backdraft (Custom Cars) undercut a local B/D dealer with a heck of a buy, (to sell a car!). Just remember, a used B/D normally will have had the original owner correct it's bugs. The bugs are still there, and it's wrong.

As you hear on this thread and others, don't expect a truly new car free of the same continual problems I have seen discussed for years here...in this market you a get a real bargain. Check with Gunrack.
It would also be nice if you could educate yourself on what advertising is free and what is not. In that same vein it would also be nice if you could offer some actual information and/or solutions to posters as opposed to playing the unsatisfied customer card.

Hey, you hate that car so much... why not sell it to this guy in Alabama? I'm sure your car is way better than a new one since you know everything about 'em and all these "bugs".

I also think you could spend some more quality time correlating the "issues" you are constantly harping on to perhaps a particular generation of the car. I get the luxury of hearing about every little nuance a customer of mine experiences and I can honestly say there is no consistency of complaints about any one item now.

Sure 4 years ago we had complaints of slip fit headers, clutch slaves, and ??? But that's where the evolution of the cars has come in, and also why considering a new vs. used is an important line of thought. And also of greater importance is the new car comes with a warranty and that is something I stand behind thoroughly (a difference in buying from us vs. them that you will never have the luxury of experiencing).

Finally if you don't think I can offer advice on a used car then you have again demonstrated your ignorance. I know firsthand where changes were made along the way, benefits of a #400+ car over a #100- car, and I watch the used market closely and get trade offers all the time.

So contribute something that helps the gentleman instead of polluting discussions... and a implies I am well aware of the "sale" tone.
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It would be nice if a new car salesman would back out of this thread...

He seems to chime in on every thread to peddle his cars and get his free advertising...

If people want to do business with him that's their choice...

I truly believe you can get a great car for 30K. All of these cars, when you see one they are in great shape...you can't tell a used one from a new one. I would have bought used, but Backdraft (Custom Cars) undercut a local B/D dealer with a heck of a buy, (to sell a car!). Just remember, a used B/D normally will have had the original owner correct it's bugs. The bugs are still there, and it's wrong.

As you hear on this thread and others, don't expect a truly new car free of the same continual problems I have seen discussed for years here...in this market you a get a real bargain. Check with Gunrack.
I think Cashburn's thoughts and insight are relevant and valuable for this thread. Keith Craft, the Kirkhams and other site sponsors lend a helping hand in a lot of threads on this Forum and I consider them welcomed.
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It would be nice if a new car salesman would back out of this thread...

He seems to chime in on every thread to peddle his cars and get his free advertising...

If people want to do business with him that's their choice...

I truly believe you can get a great car for 30K. All of these cars, when you see one they are in great shape...you can't tell a used one from a new one. I would have bought used, but Backdraft (Custom Cars) undercut a local B/D dealer with a heck of a buy, (to sell a car!). Just remember, a used B/D normally will have had the original owner correct it's bugs. The bugs are still there, and it's wrong.

As you hear on this thread and others, don't expect a truly new car free of the same continual problems I have seen discussed for years here...in this market you a get a real bargain. Check with Gunrack.


We all know who I mean.
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