SB100 Sequence Number 2010499

[rustyBob]

Thas been happening ever since they started the whole smog check mess....
SB-100 baby the only way to go....

[kayakjack]

Originally Posted by rustyBob

Thas been happening ever since they started the whole smog check mess....
SB-100 baby the only way to go....

So, if you have a car actually made in 1965 (say a Cobra), you would have to get an SB-100 exemption? I thought SB-100 was for cars which do not meet the emissions rules in existence when the car was built.

I used to own a 1973 Lotus Europa. It met the emission rules in place in 1973. If I still owned it and lived in California, would I have to get an SB-100?

Jack

[Ron61]

Originally Posted by kayakjack

So, if you have a car actually made in 1965 (say a Cobra), you would have to get an SB-100 exemption? I thought SB-100 was for cars which do not meet the emissions rules in existence when the car was built.

I used to own a 1973 Lotus Europa. It met the emission rules in place in 1973. If I still owned it and lived in California, would I have to get an SB-100?

Jack

This law applies to all replicas and kit cars. At the present time, any real car made before 1974 is exempt from emission testing, but cars from 1975 up are going to have to meet much more stringent tests than they originally had to. If you have any car actually made in 1965, at this time at least you don't have to worry about smog testing.

Ron

[kayakjack]

Originally Posted by Ron61

This law applies to all replicas and kit cars. At the present time, any real car made before 1974 is exempt from emission testing, but cars from 1975 up are going to have to meet much more stringent tests than they originally had to. If you have any car actually made in 1965, at this time at least you don't have to worry about smog testing.

Ron

Not that anyone who writes laws in California is asking me, but this is really not "fair". I understand getting old junkers that are blowing smoke all over the place off the road. But telling people who own, say a perfect 1979 Ferrari 308 to comply with more stringent rules than were in effect when new, or get one of 500 SB-100 exemptions per year does not pass the smell test.

Like I said, they didn't ask me.

Jack

[Ron61]

Jack,

You can't get an SB-100 number on a real car. They are only for kit cars and replicas. And even they can't be turn key cars as yo have to have the engine and transmission at least installed by someone other than the dealer. Then you have to have every receipt for all of the work and everything when you go into the DMV. So a 1977 Ford, Chevy, or any other manufactured car isn't allowed to be registered using the SB-100 process. My neighbor who has a 2003 diesel Ford pick up had to take it in and have it smog tested last Summer. And they had never tested diesels here before.

Ron

[kayakjack]

So, if you can't get an SB-100 for a "real car" and you have a 1979 Ferrari 308 that currently meets 1979 standards, but California wants you to meet much more stringent standards, what options do you have to keep the car on the road?

Jack

[Ron61]

Jack,

That is a great unknown right now, at least up in this area. Depending on which DMV you talk to, you will get completely different answers. Kind of like when my neighbor had to take his pick up in to be tested. It has no smog stuff on it except the catalytic converters and they have never tested diesel engines before so we were wondering what they would do for a test. He said they opened the hood, looked at the motor for a few seconds, asked him if he had changed the chip in the computer and then stuck the sniffer in the tailpipe and wrote down the reading and told him he was ok. I think that is more a money thing than any attempt to make the vehicles run clean. And their law is contradicting itself as they have a law that you can't modify the engine, yet to make them run cleaner than when they were new and met those standards it will take a lot of modifications on some vehicles that pass their original requirements.

Ron