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Old 07-01-2014, 07:19 PM
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Default Mustang II to tubular coil over??

Hey everyone im looking to swap out my original mustangII components and go to a tubular coilover front end? I have done a lot of reading on this on various sites and also looked at numerous kits. Can anyone point me in the right direction for what kit I should use?
1-Kit name and supplier
2-im using QA-1 coilovers in the rear and totally love the ride it gives me I want to stick to the same brand so what pound of spring should I be using? Small block ford in the nose.
3-will the sway bar mount to the lower control arms or do I need to change it as well?
4-do I need to reinstall strut arms? I don't think I do?

Any help for this canuck would be greatly appreciated. Finnally the weather up here in Edmonton AB has smartened up enough to get on the roads again..Thanks again guys
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:27 PM
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350 lbs for a small block, Heidts tubulars will get rid of the torsion bars- small welding required. QA1's work fine on the front, Heidts or QA 1 can tell you what shock to get.

The difference for the buck and the little amount of work will leave you speechless with the results.

Actual /true professional testing, ditch the CR's front sway bar!
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:38 AM
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Actual /true professional testing, ditch the CR's front sway bar!
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Ditch the front sway bar all together or replace it with something else?
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:49 AM
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the kellison i have had the stamped steel mustang II also, if you have the strut arms now, with single mount lower control arm, you will not be able to ditch the strut arms.
well not without re-fabricating the front frame for the dual mount lower arm.

get the heidt's arms like i did, with the single mount, the sway bar will bolt right up to it. and so will the strut arms,
they have them for the qa1 coil overs so you will be able to re-use your shocks.
actually the strut arm set up is stronger than the setup without strut arms.
there are some pics of my suspension in my gallery
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Mr Penn oil,
The HEIDTS control arms are meant to be used without the strut arms.
The CR's sway bar was NEVER designed to work on the Cobra! It was made for a Bronco II.
Way to heavy for a CR's.!

You can - with success- put a sway bar on but it IS LESS than half the thickness of the OEM CR and you have to make it. (I used sway bar material from SPEEDWAY Motors.)

ALL of my suspension suggestions have been 'figured, tested', and driven by Pro's that make their living racing OEM cars.

Personally, I take suspension very seriously.

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i'm sure your serious about suspension.
i'm serious about simple logic.
how do you mount this



where this was? without alot of fabrication.




for a street vehicle that is going to hit bumps and potholes the strut rod type is by far safer and stronger. Ford motor company says so.
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Cobra1966,
I did not go with coilovers, but I did install the wider lower control arms. It was pretty simple, and you do not use the strut arms. In my kit, all I had to do is enlarge the hole in the frame where the narrower arms usually go, then weld in the tube with the gusset. Seems like a pretty strong setup.
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Motorcity,
Exactly. More hopefully tomorrow after I get an answer from Ford, Heidts has already spoken. "The facts Mam, just the facts"
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:00 PM
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did you use the Heidts kit as well? Why did you not go with coilovers in the front?
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I used the upper and lower control arm kit with Pro Shocks provided by CRII shortly before they closed. They looked like the one in the lower picture by FWB. I used the strut arms and the sway bar. I'm not sure what to expect by removing the sway bar but I have been tempted to disconnect it to see what happens. I do not use a sway bar in the rear. I think my car handles pretty well although a little stiff. Big block so I have the stiffer spring weight in front. To my eye the strut rods look very strong geometrically and I see no reason to remove them. I see in the top picture by FWB there is a wider attachment of the control arm with the spring perch but there is also a gusset which I believe needs to be welded to the frame to replace the strut rod. Interesting post.

Does a car do better in the corners with some body roll? Maybe I don't understand the concept of sway bar technology.

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John.

CR's way bar is almost right for a BB but it its technically still to stiff. But, IF I was running a BB and did not have another choice I would run it too.
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Can anybody point me to a video showing someone doing the swap out?
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