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[cobrafx]

Here is a pic of where the right front motor frame mount is currently located. The inner fenderwell has recesses molded in them for the bolt heads. Only two have the clearance. So its either use the rear holes in the brackets or the front and drill two in the frame. has anyone done or experienced this style of frame mount? I believe the car to be a CNC, based on replies from the kind folk here.

[YerDugliness]

Originally Posted by cobrafx

Here is a pic of where the right front motor frame mount is currently located. The inner fenderwell has recesses molded in them for the bolt heads. Only two have the clearance. So its either use the rear holes in the brackets or the front and drill two in the frame.

Jamie, are the motor mounts suppose to be welded on after you locate them with the bolts? You mention front and rear holes, so I am assuming the other two holes are obscured right now by the frame horn, am I right? It's difficult to understand if they are held in place by two bolts each, or with four bolts each, as I don't see holes in the frame for the bolts that would go through the unused holes in the frame-horn bracket location in the photo.

How about this....remove the motor mounts and switch sides with them. This might give you a more rearward mounting position for the engine mounts without having to drill and tap more holes in the frame.

Just an idea....hard to tell from photos, but let us know what you think about whether or not it might work....

My frame horns are very different from yours, so pics of mine won't help.

Cheers!

Doug

[cobrafx]

The oil filter is indeed on the left side as any other. I just had better light for the pic taking a view of the pass side. I can get one of the dvr side and post it. hahahaha....I actually was gonna snap a pic of the engine but it has a REALLY ugly looking bellhousing on it and didnt want to do it the injustice. As I was looking at the picture I came up with the same idea..to swap sides since there is an angle along the top of the mount that would probably match the down angle of the frame rail. Yes, the mustang2 front end that is on it has the strut rods mount to the angle bracket you mentioned. The frame mount has 4 slotted holes in it. It is currently only attached with two as I want to make damn sure they are in the right spot before I drill two more holes in the frame rails. Oh, and yes, that is the alt bracket on the floor. After I take the bellhousing off and blast it clean I will take some more pics. I very much appreciate you following the progress....If you see me doing something stupid PLEASE tell me!!
Thanks
Jaime

[cobrafx]

hahahaha....I also had '72 LTD with a Cleveland! Did a stock rebuild and installed a 506 Lift 290 dur cam that would just come to life after2500 rpm. I surprised ALOT of guys in that 4 door LTD! Oh, the engine has a Weiand inatke on it. It has Ford Motorsport alum fined valve covers but also had the valve covers provided by the people that did the porting job....Powerheads cnc ported. Stuck my finger in an exhaust port and felt around.....oooooooo feels niiiiice!
Jaime

[Jaydee]

I had a 78 LTD with the Rolls Royce grill, with a 351C. I still have the engine and trans in my shed, waiting to find a home. But they are to wide to fit my Cobra. Also pre emmisions. Great engines.
JD

[YerDugliness]

Originally Posted by cobrafx

hahahaha....I also had '72 LTD with a Cleveland! Did a stock rebuild and installed a 506 Lift 290 dur cam that would just come to life after2500 rpm. I surprised ALOT of guys in that 4 door LTD!
Jaime

I stuffed the 351C from my 1972 Ford LTD into a 1971 Mercury Comet GT, essentially the same car as the Ford Maverick. It required a 12-piece set of headers in which the rearmost two pipes on each side ran across to the other side of the engine and exited through the exhaust pipe on the opposite side...sort of like a set of "bundle of snakes" headers on a GT40. I used a Crane Fireball cam with specs similar to yours, but used a set of Rhoads "bleed-down" hydraulic lifters (at low RPM's the lifters didn't fill completely with oil, thereby reducing not only the effective lift, but also the effective duration) to give the engine good low-end torque, so mine grunted very well from an idle and once the engine was up to 2,000 RPM the lifters were fully pumped up, so the top end was great, too. Yeah, I surprised a lot of guys with that Comet GT, too.....until some dopehead ran into it on BOTH front fenders as it sat in the lot at a body shop waiting for the doors to be reskinned and the car to be painted...that was the end of that one !

Originally Posted by Jaydee

I had a 78 LTD with the Rolls Royce grill, with a 351C. I still have the engine and trans in my shed, waiting to find a home. But they are to wide to fit my Cobra. Also pre emmisions. Great engines.
JD

Jaydee, are you sure it was a 351C? The reason I ask is that the last of the Clevelands was the Q-code "HO" engine and that was discontinued with the 74 model. That engine was a disaster, the large valves and ports of the 351C-4V with an incredibly low compression ratio and open-chamber heads. I drove a 74 Torino with one and it was a REAL PIG, my 351C-2V would have been in the traps before that car ever made the 1/8 mile mark. It had no low-end torque and took FOREVER to accelerate to 60...I bet 10 seconds. What you had in your 78 might have been a 351M...one of the 335 series of Ford engines, but a bit wider (it had a higher deck, and used the bellhousing pattern from the 429-460 Ford/385 series engines. There was a 400M, too. At the time I was driving the big Ford, they were considered to be useful for little more than boat motors, but recently they have been kicking some serious arse in the Popular Hot Rod Engine Masters series....glad to see them getting the respect they deserved. They were large, heavy, and much WIDER than the 351C, though....most 351C engines will fit into most Cobra replicas, the 351M/400m engines, not so much. Here's the Wikipedia info on the 335 engine line:

Ford 335 engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I still have a Cleveland block and two cranks sitting in my garage, along with 4 of the open-chambered 2V heads (which will NEVER get used with the current crop of closed chambered heads available).

Jamie, you mentioned the Cleveland was stroked....do you know what the eventual displacement would have been? I mentioned the two common stroker kits, but an overbore could have added a few CID, too.

Now, my dream engine would be a 427CID Windsor block with Cleveland heads...the "Clevor" combination. For some reason nobody that I know of has managed to stroke the Cleveland to 427CID, that "magic" number. The Windsor, though, has been done many times at 427CID.....and the Windsor engine has the priority oil delivery system that keeps the mains alive at high RPM's, the oiling system was always the Cleveland's "Achilles Heel".

Cheers, guys!

Dugly

[RedEye]

I see you too have a Streetbeast frame. IF you're able I would encourage you check the welds, we found a number of them to be cracked, lacking penetration, or cold welded. When we grinded them out, it was worse. Anyhow, it's otherwise a nice strong setup.