4 spd vs 5 spd pros and cons

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

You guys enjoying your black & white TV's and those operater-assisted phone calls on your rotary dial phones too?

I have two words for you. Oy vey.

why not, i am enjoying also mechanical watches and vinyl records ....

....normaly classic car enthusiasts are enjoying classic technique

aren't cobras primarily classic cars?....

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

why not, i am enjoying also mechanical watches and vinyl records ....

....normaly classic car enthusiasts are enjoying classic technique

aren't cobras primarily classic cars?....

Carrying around that vinyl record player when you run, hike or bike seems like such a hassle.

An original genuine 1960's Cobra is a classic car, but unfortunately for 99.99% of us, we own replicas and/or kit cars mostly built in the new millennium.

As for watches, sorry, but I don't understand that hobby. I just need to know the time.

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Carrying around that vinyl record player when you run, hike or bike seems like such a hassle.

An original genuine 1960's Cobra is a classic car, but unfortunately for 99.99% of us, we own replicas and/or kit cars mostly built in the new millennium.

As for watches, sorry, but I don't understand that hobby. I just need to know the time.

don't mix "classic" and "original "

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

don't mix "classic" and "original "

A 1960's car is a classic. And it's the original. Cobras made after the original production in the 1960's aren't classics. They're modern interpretations of the original, replicas, kit cars, not classic.

Phrases like "period correct" and "Cobra experience" are really utter nonsense, when few, if any, of us have actually had a real genuine Cobra experience to replicate. But boy, we sure will get that "Cobra experience" by shifting through a 50-60 year old transmission that cannot keep up with modern traffic conditions and a transmission that cannot be seen by naked eye. So period correctness, is just via one's imagination until he or she puts their Cobra on a hydraulic lift for service.

And gee whiz, that Toploader/Hurst package shifts like butter in comparison to the Tremec TKO600/Steeda Tri-Ax combo.

How about using the Tremec's 2.87 1st gear (versus the WR Toploader's 2.78) to get out of the hole quicker, when waiting for that metering light to turn green at the nearest freeway onramp? Won't that increased holeshot give you a greater feeling of the Cobra experience?

The ONLY sane reason to choose a Toploader is simply the difference in money. Anyone that thinks shifting a Toploader via their Hurst Competition Plus shifter to recreate the 1960's and run their $20,000-$30,000 Windsor and FE engines at 4,000 RPM @ 65 MPH (or whatever) for 30 minutes or a 1-2 (or more) hour drive, is simply living in Fantasyland.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

A 1960's car is a classic. And it's the original. Cobras made after the original production in the 1960's aren't classics. They're modern interpretations of the original, replicas, kit cars, not classic.

Phrases like "period correct" and "Cobra experience" are really utter nonsense, when few, if any, of us have actually had a real genuine Cobra experience to replicate. But boy, we sure will get that "Cobra experience" by shifting through a 50-60 year old transmission that cannot keep up with modern traffic conditions and a transmission that cannot be seen by naked eye. So period correctness, is just via one's imagination until he or she puts their Cobra on a hydraulic lift for service.

And gee whiz, that Toploader/Hurst package shifts like butter in comparison to the Tremec TKO600/Steeda Tri-Ax combo.

How about using the Tremec's 2.87 1st gear (versus the WR Toploader's 2.78) to get out of the hole quicker, when waiting for that metering light to turn green at the nearest freeway onramp? Won't that increased holeshot give you a greater feeling of the Cobra experience?

The ONLY sane reason to choose a Toploader is simply the difference in money. Anyone that thinks shifting a Toploader via their Hurst Competition Plus shifter to recreate the 1960's and run their $20,000-$30,000 Windsor and FE engines at 4,000 RPM @ 65 MPH (or whatever) for 30 minutes or a 1-2 (or more) hour drive, is simply living in Fantasyland.

Geez! Thanks for straightening me out there Rodknock! I have done several long drives and I guess I will just stay in Fantasyland!
BTW, my daughter is a performer at Disneyland, so I am quite familiar.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Geez! Thanks for straightening me out there Rodknock! I have done several long drives and I guess I will just stay in Fantasyland!
BTW, my daughter is a performer at Disneyland, so I am quite familiar.

Ah, Bernica, just giving you a hard time.

Hey, if believing in unicorns, leprechauns and the buttery smooth shifting of a Toploader/Hurst combo at 4,000 RPM on the 15 and 405 freeways makes you feel happy, then more power to ya. Just please stay out of the FasTrak and express lanes.

[Bernica]

I have driven cars with TKO, Jericho, Doug Nash etc. For me, I feel like I can just "feel" things better with a Toploader. I know the trans, I know the shifter. Just feels right in my hands, if that makes sense.....

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

A 1960's car is a classic. And it's the original. Cobras made after the original production in the 1960's aren't classics. They're modern interpretations of the original, replicas, kit cars, not classic.

Phrases like "period correct" and "Cobra experience" are really utter nonsense, when few, if any, of us have actually had a real genuine Cobra experience to replicate. But boy, we sure will get that "Cobra experience" by shifting through a 50-60 year old transmission that cannot keep up with modern traffic conditions and a transmission that cannot be seen by naked eye. So period correctness, is just via one's imagination until he or she puts their Cobra on a hydraulic lift for service.

And gee whiz, that Toploader/Hurst package shifts like butter in comparison to the Tremec TKO600/Steeda Tri-Ax combo.

How about using the Tremec's 2.87 1st gear (versus the WR Toploader's 2.78) to get out of the hole quicker, when waiting for that metering light to turn green at the nearest freeway onramp? Won't that increased holeshot give you a greater feeling of the Cobra experience?

The ONLY sane reason to choose a Toploader is simply the difference in money. Anyone that thinks shifting a Toploader via their Hurst Competition Plus shifter to recreate the 1960's and run their $20,000-$30,000 Windsor and FE engines at 4,000 RPM @ 65 MPH (or whatever) for 30 minutes or a 1-2 (or more) hour drive, is simply living in Fantasyland.

you are mixing it

any recreation of an original classic thing stays a classic thing and it is legitimate to have the opinion that it should be inside as classic at the on the outside

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

you are mixing it

any recreation of an original classic thing stays a classic thing and it is legitimate to have the opinion that it should be inside as classic at the on the outside

No, you're "mixing it." The modern mass interpretation/reproduction/cloning/imitation of a classic car, which is delivered in an incomplete status (kit form) and really isn't an exact duplication anyway (especially built in fiberglass), doesn't confer classic status to the reproduction/clone/imitation.

The original 1960's Cobra is a classic. Period. That's my opinion. You have yours. We disagree.