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[Chuckster]

Buzz,

Thanks for the detailed response. You answered my main question of why several folks I have talked with did not recommend some of the non traditional body type cobras out there. They never would say why, but now I know! Looks like the path of least resistance is whether I want the traditional style or the comfortable cruiser.

A couple more Q's....

- Do the traditional body style cobras retain their value better that the others? Not that resale is an issue with me, but just need some sales support in the "sales presentation" to the wife.

- 351W or a Roush....Any opinions

[Buzz]

Hi Chuckster. Comparing brands is always a touchy subject because of the broad spectrum of personal tastes and brand loyalties and it almost always turns nasty, so most people just refrain from commenting publicly. As for resale, you are wise not to look at a Cobra replica (or any new vehicle) purchase as an investment as over the short term almost no vehicle can be expected to hold its original value.
For the presentation to wifey, use the same argument you would use to sell her on the purchase of any expensive commodity - Its better to spend a little extra up front if you can to buy a quality product as it will look better, last longer and lose less of its value and market appeal over time compared to a cheaper or inferior brand. It also helps to tell her that buying a Cobra will put you right in the mood to do that kitchen remodel she's been hinting about for the last few months.
Engine selection is another BIG can o' worms for the same reasons mentioned above. Here's the purist point of view that is subscribed to by many owners of the premium brand cars: Big block FE series engine in a 427 replica and a small block in any 289 series replica ( FIA, USRRC, slabside, etc).
Most others are content to have an accurate looking replica powered by the engine of their choice and hotly debate the big block vs small block issue based on the pros and cons of weight, handling, torque, power, "look" and sound. At the end of the day it boils down again to what YOU want and that's really all that matters. Windsors are very popular, flexible platforms for building a nice, powerful motor - commonly stroked to 396, 408 and 427 cubes. Which Roush motor are you considering?

[Chuckster]

Buzz,

To keep things within a reasonable budget, I am leaning toward the Roush 342R (450 hp). I like the 24K warranty on the motor.

[Slick61]

... a completed, all-new/non-donor car would be a challenge for less than $50k if you don't want to hassle with the build. A painted, rolling chassis will run you $30k+++ Then, there's the engine & tranny, installation, tuning, miscellaneous extras, yada yada yada... It adds up fast. Turn-keys typically start at around $45k, with a 302 crate motor in them.

It's more economical to buy a completed car. (though not many Superformance cars can be had below $50k) Yes, you'll probably have to make compromises in your wish list... depends on how picky you want to be.

the more you look at (and ride in)- the better idea you'll have of what you want...

[Chuckster]

Slick,

How do you like the BDR? It's high on my list as they all look gorgeous. If you don't mind, what did it go far when all was said and done?

[Slick61]

Originally Posted by Chuckster

Slick,

How do you like the BDR? It's high on my list as they all look gorgeous. If you don't mind, what did it go far when all was said and done?

I'm very happy with my Backdraft! They were on my shortlist from the beginning, and that's what I was fortunate to find!

My advice is to start going a looking at the various replicas & kits. The more you look, the better idea you'll have of what you want. The differences can be subtle, but significant to a particular buyer... i.e. how the rear fender lip is rolled, whether the hood scoop is molded in or riveted on, the size & shape of the rollbar, how the various parts of the car are finished (interior, engine compartment, wheelwells, etc.). Dimensional differences are also somewhat subjective. I really don't notice the 2" stretch of the Backdraft wheelbase, but I really notice the 4" stretch of the Lonestar. I also notice the larger overall proportions of the West Coast Cobra- moreso in the way the cockpit is finished. As long as you're not a purist, they each have something unique to offer. I wasn't terribly hung up on authenticity... I wanted as many benefits as possible from the technological advantages of the past 40 years (stiffer frame, better suspension, etc.), wrapped in a reasonably "correct" looking package.

A stroked small block was at the top of my list, tho I would not have ruled out bigger or smaller engines. I like having the power of a big block with the weight of a small block. It doesn't fill the engine bay as well as a big block, but there's more room to work & more room for air circulation. I tried to look at the overall execution of the build.

The engine was WAY more than I was looking for (615 hp/tq), and is not the most streetable engine for tooling around town, but was so nicely done I couldn't resist.

After I looked at, and rode in a few, I knew I wanted IRS... I knew I wanted a 5 speed... and a stroked small block was my top choice for engines. It will probably be different for you and will also depend on what you want to do with it (and how much money you want to spend).

I think the Backdraft is a heckuva value, & stacks up favorably against other replicas & kits. Others offer more authentic features (and slightly better quality), albeit at a higher price point that was simply out of my range for a weekend toy.

As for pricing, I prefer to keep that to myself for now... Suffice it to say that it would be in your price range. To me, assessing the pricing on completed replicas was THE MOST difficult task... they're all so different and there are SO many factors to consider. Just do your homework, figure out what YOU want, and what you're comfortable paying...

[Chuckster]

Thanks all,

I am a bit analytical and its good to hear how everybody went through the same process. Although the amount of information is daunting, its going to be a fun project . I wholeheartedly agree on the fit, finish, and exterior shape. I know already that I want a bolted on hood scoop for the extra detail. The first step is to bring my camera with me at the Run n gun and really check all the mfgs I can. I Should be able to hone it down from there. Next visits to the top few, etc, etc. Thanks for everybodys advice and I'll keep you posted. (I may even sneak out to London next year)

Chuckster