roll bar holes

[mreid]

The holes are completely dependent on where the frame mounts are located (or frame members for attaching mounts) which is completely dependent on the manufacturer. In other words, it depends on who made the car and the year it was made.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by mreid

The holes are completely dependent on where the frame mounts are located (or frame members for attaching mounts) which is completely dependent on the manufacturer. In other words, it depends on who made the car and the year it was made.

That's only if you want it to actually do something when you flip the car. A lot of the cars have "cosmetic" roll bars... and I'm thinking of the Contemporary I almost bought a zillion years ago. If you want it to support the car while you're sliding upside down, then you're going to have to take it to the frame, or equally strong supports.

[patrickt]

[patrickt]

[RACER X #99]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I don't know what that means but my Contemporary Roll bar attached to the frame rails just like the ERA bars.
Contemporary was just being realistic in that neither roll bar was actually sufficient by today's standards. No race club will allow you to race with the standard hoop available on any brand replica including Shelby and Kirkham.
They are all just cosmetic rollbars like Contemporary pointed out 25 years ago.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

I don't know what that means but my Contemporary Roll bar attached to the frame rails just like the ERA bars.
Contemporary was just being realistic in that neither roll bar was actually sufficient by today's standards. No race club will allow you to race with the standard hoop available on any brand replica including Shelby and Kirkham.
They are all just cosmetic rollbars like Contemporary pointed out 25 years ago.

I'm taxing my memory, but I recall discussing this very issue with Peter B. in the early 80's and, as I recall, it was not the mounts but the roll bar itself. I'm pretty darn sure that I was assured at the time that a true, heavy duty steel roll bar could be obtained elsewhere and that it would "do the trick." I think I'm sure of that, but it's going on 30 years now so it's possible I'm wrong.

[patrickt]

... and by the way, ERA states specifically that their roll bar is actually functional. Roll bar

[RACER X #99]

Originally Posted by patrickt

... and by the way, ERA states specifically that their roll bar is actually functional. Roll bar

There is a big difference in functional and race approved.

What Peter Bayer was telling you in writing is that your roll bar is not approved as roll over protection.
Just a disclaimer that's all.

None of the hoops are approved for real racing. They allow them in vintage racing but that"s about it.