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patrickt 12-19-2020 08:24 AM

And if you have a really sharp eye you will see that Bob P. actually labeled that ground wire as "66" and, sure enough, if you go to the ERA wiring instruction manual you will see that connection 66 is titled "GROUND FOR FUEL FILLER PIPE" and that black wire leads to the rear bumper bracket ground point.;)

patrickt 12-19-2020 09:38 AM

... and what are those three small clear hoses for?
 
http://38.134.118.239/fuelfillerhoses.jpg

DanEC 12-19-2020 01:33 PM

The street cap is a little different although end result is the same. Mine is turned towards the outside and hard to see but I’ll see if I can get a picture of it.

Gaz64 12-19-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrakiwi (Post 1486603)
Is this the vehicle you have seen many fires in because of no fuel neck ground strap?
I see that this vehicle had a call back for a possible fire hazzard due to a faulty alternator wire etc.
I did a Google on it but coming up with nothing, would you have a link to a news report or something backing your claims?

Thanks much.

It took a few complaint instances for Holden to work out what was happening.
Then the rework techline came out to add the ground strap to affected vehicles.
Unfortunately, I can't locate the techline copy right now. I could have a hard copy of it to scan, but I need to did some old books for that.

Suffice to say, if you google "fuel filler pipe ground", you will see many instances of what can happen without the ground strap connected.

As Patrick has said, the strap is to ensure the filler neck flange (this is the point of contact by hand and fuel bowser nozzle) is held at the same potential as the rest of the metalwork.

DanEC 12-20-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrakiwi (Post 1486604)
Dan
Would you have a picture of how ERA, or you have added the wire to your fill cap neck?

Thanks

Well, I keep forgetting this is the only auto forum I can't post pictures too anymore because I don't have a photo storage account any longer and can't paste from my computer. Basically ERA tacks a threaded stud to the down pipe section coming off the filler and a ground wire going underfloor to the frame or the tank. If you would like me to email a picture pm me your email.

Dan

patrickt 12-20-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1486640)
Well, I keep forgetting this is the only auto forum I can't post pictures too anymore because I don't have a photo storage account any longer and can't paste from my computer. Basically ERA tacks a threaded stud to the down pipe section coming off the filler and a ground wire going underfloor to the frame or the tank. If you would like me to email a picture pm me your email.

Dan

This forum gives you like 100 megs of space to upload pics and I just looked and you haven't uploaded even one. Just click on the camera icon under your name on any of your posts and then choose "Upload Photos" from the upper right of the screen. It's really easy. I mean, really easy.:cool:

DanEC 12-20-2020 04:30 PM

Yeah - I haven't used that - keeps wanting me to resize my files. Everything's a frickin pain in the ass.

xb-60 12-20-2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaz64 (Post 1486614)
....the strap is to ensure the filler neck flange (this is the point of contact by hand and fuel bowser nozzle) is held at the same potential as the rest of the metalwork.

OK. I'm convinced. My fuel filler needs a grounding connection.
Gary, does a braided strap have any advantage over an insulated wire?

Cheers,
Glen

Gaz64 12-20-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1486649)
OK. I'm convinced. My fuel filler needs a grounding connection.
Gary, does a braided strap have any advantage over an insulated wire?

Cheers,
Glen

I don't see any advantage, one over the other.
Either one will produce near zero ohms.
It doesn't need to be over-engineered, so no Sydney Harbour bridge. Lightweight and functional. ;)
Gary

cobrakiwi 12-20-2020 06:23 PM

I wonder how all the motorcycles etc with steel and aluminum rubber mounted fuel tanks get away with out ground straps and not bowing up at the pump?
Like I said, the video in the previous post (95) says it all.

Gaz64 12-20-2020 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrakiwi (Post 1486653)
I wonder how all the motorcycles etc with steel and aluminum rubber mounted fuel tanks get away with out ground straps and not bowing up at the pump?
Like I said, the video in the previous post (95) says it all.

Yes, that is a good question.

Now I'm off to find the answer, maybe.

Similar scenario in boats:
https://www.rib.net/forum/f36/ground...ank-42459.html

cobrakiwi 05-01-2021 01:29 PM

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Been a minute or two but back on this one, got the clutch and brake pedals made up and installed.

cobrakiwi 05-09-2021 06:51 AM

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Cover plate for around the pedals made up and installed.

1795 05-09-2021 01:56 PM

Looks nice. Another happy customer Craig.

Jim

Grubby 05-09-2021 03:51 PM

You do nice work.

I like the seal for the pedals. I put something similar in the last ERA. This build is going to look more like what you did.

John

xb-60 05-09-2021 08:04 PM

Very nice work Craig! I'm feeling like I should be reworking my pedals somewhat :confused: ;)

Cheers!
Glen

cobrakiwi 12-17-2021 04:11 AM

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Finally got a front corner on this one, been waiting on a part of two:JEKYLHYDE

Then top it off with the shinny bit.:)


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