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05-11-2006, 09:47 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
Posts: 18,804
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Hal,
I know I would love to see more of your car. I am sure that selling is analogous to losing a loved one. I know its just a car but what a car!
Ever considered a video made by you about the car?
Set a new record on the sale!
Jeff
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05-22-2006, 07:55 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Webster,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2019 (sold) - First Factory Dragonsnake, Ford GT
Posts: 99
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Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
Ever considered a video made by you about the car?
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Jeff, I've been filming the work on the Dragonsnake as we went along, but that video will have to wait until I get a few things off my plate. In the meantime, take a look at the "Wheels in Motion" segment that's now ready for viewing at
http://www.wimtoday.com/news.asp?a=862
The Dragonsnake left Rochester last Thursday and is now in Belvidere.
Last edited by Hal Heindel; 05-22-2006 at 07:58 AM..
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05-22-2006, 10:02 AM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,316
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My computer started to play the video OK, but after a while, I saw lips moving, but nobody talking, just background music.
Has anyone been able to view the video successfully?
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05-22-2006, 10:09 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Webster,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2019 (sold) - First Factory Dragonsnake, Ford GT
Posts: 99
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Yes, I did, this morning. I'm assuming you have broadband? When the video comes on, the volume is set fairly high. Once you get to the interviews, it goes way down. At that point, you'll probably have to increase your sound volume.
Last edited by Hal Heindel; 05-22-2006 at 10:13 AM..
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05-22-2006, 10:15 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
My computer started to play the video OK, but after a while, I saw lips moving, but nobody talking, just background music.
Has anyone been able to view the video successfully?
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It's a 16 minute clip, that is a 37 meg file...the server is not very 'robust'
You are much better off to go to the site thru Hal's link...then find the View Video link on the website..then, right-click on the link and choose Save Target As... to download the file to your hard drive, then play it back, offline.
Nice show, Hal... 
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05-22-2006, 10:18 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Thats what I did, 'Save Target As..'. Even the download took a while, I simply surfed some other sites and let it slowly download on it's own. Once the download starts you can even close the Web page completely and go on and do something else.
"A watched pot never boils."
Hal that was SO weird hearing about how your original plans were to make it a 'street' car. Understanding that 'back in the day' it was just another used race car. Put in a milder motor, return the steering to stock, etc. WOW! History dodged a bullet there.
Last edited by Excaliber; 05-22-2006 at 10:38 AM..
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05-22-2006, 10:36 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Is there anyone who would be interested in a fractional ownership situation of 2019 and bring it home to California? I'd be interested to about 100k.
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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05-22-2006, 11:17 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Webster,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2019 (sold) - First Factory Dragonsnake, Ford GT
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
Hal, that was SO weird hearing about how your original plans were to make it a 'street' car. Understanding that 'back in the day' it was just another used race car. Put in a milder motor, return the steering to stock, etc. WOW! History dodged a bullet there.
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Actually, while the stock worm-and-sector steering wasn't the greatest, I could easily have lived with that. The biggest obstacle was the cam. Virtually nothing below 3,000 RPM, and all hell breaking loose at around 3,200. You had to constantly watch the tach in any corner to make sure you always stayed above or below that. Difficult to do in city traffic.
Out in the country, the headers were what made life miserable. The Ballengers came to within two inches of the firewall. They were so close that the Shelby crew removed the boot around the steering column. Probably got tired of the smell of burning leather. That wasn't a problem in drag racing, where the whole show ended in seconds. But on the open road, that red-hot header a couple of inches from your left big toe . . . well, you get the idea.
Where history really dodged the bullet though was when I decided to repaint the car back around 1980. I had lost track of Randy Berry, the previous owner, but found him when I saw one of his ads for the Marauder Company. When I called, I casually mentioned that I planned to paint the Dragonsnake the same candy-apple red as my new 1978 Honda CBX motorcycle. I loved that paint. He said, "I don't think you want to do that. I never touched the car. That's the original Shelby paint."
The paint stayed. Blemishes and all.
Last edited by Hal Heindel; 05-22-2006 at 11:20 AM..
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05-22-2006, 11:30 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Hal...that is precisely the reason I am thankful, to this day, that I did not buy the Cobra I almost bought in the 60's.
I know to my toes I would have painted it Corvette Blue, whacked a hole in the dash for an 8-track....and then, either would have summarily died in it while racing on the Clearview Expressway....or be riddled with remorse for the rest of my life, for having sold it two years later for half what I paid for it.
I am so glad I waited until I grew up.
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05-23-2006, 03:52 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Webster,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2019 (sold) - First Factory Dragonsnake, Ford GT
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Originally Posted by computerworks
I am so glad I waited until I grew up.
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Ron, we're driving near-race cars on the street, we love the smell of Castrol and the sight of burning rubber, too much horsepower is still never quite enough . . . we grew up? I turned 70 last month, I'm planning to break in a new Ford GT and start driving a 440 six-pack Superbee this month. Where were we when they handed out the time-to-settle-down pills? And why isn't anybody telling Carroll?
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05-23-2006, 11:34 AM
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Hal , just watched the video, FANTASTIC. Thanks for sharing your time with us and posting great pictures and telling us all about the wonderful car. What a great guy. Paul
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05-23-2006, 12:24 PM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Hey, SCOBRAC, if you are still interesting in partial ownership, I could probably throw in a couple hundred dollars and be willing to store the car in my garage.
I assume the car runs, so I could drive it to my place in Pennsylvania. That would probably be less miles than driving to CA.
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05-23-2006, 02:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: atlanta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: blue apparition
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Hal, I will be in attendance (spectating only, unfortunately). I anticipate that it will bring some very cubic dollars.
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05-23-2006, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: atlanta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: blue apparition
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Originally Posted by SCOBRAC
Is there anyone who would be interested in a fractional ownership situation of 2019 and bring it home to California? I'd be interested to about 100k.
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I think you'll need 10+ investors. 
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05-27-2006, 07:09 AM
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Todays the day, good luck Hal.
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05-27-2006, 10:32 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: La Habra Ca.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hi Tech Cobra Contemporary Cobra
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Hal can you give us an idea of why you decided to auction at Mecum and not Barrett Jackson or other? Was there a logistic or money issue? Do you have a reserve on it? Michael
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is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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05-27-2006, 10:56 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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I'm not a big fan of B.J., I hope they eat their heart out over missing this one! 
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05-27-2006, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: La Habra Ca.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hi Tech Cobra Contemporary Cobra
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Ernie, Im not a big fan of B.J either especially after the way they treated David Kirkham but they do have the limelight on em. I'm mainly interrested in knowing what ticks in the minds of the people at this level seeing that I probably wont ever be in their shoes. If I did have a car of this importance Id have to go with the auction that has historicly been better for Cobra's than any others. The difference could be in the 100s of thousands of dollars. I just went to Mecums website and they havnt posted the results for Dragonsnake.
Michael
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'"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There
is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."' Patrick Henry.
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05-27-2006, 10:57 PM
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Dragonsnake results
Anyone know what the Dragonsnake went for today?
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05-27-2006, 11:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Duvall,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP286, Shelby 482, Webers, 593HP
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