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Tramsey 05-30-2012 05:56 AM

Converting from a 350 sbc to a Ford sbc
 
Hello,

I'm new to the forum. I have been looking for a Cobra for a while and found a Contemporary Cobra 427 built sometime in the late eighties. The price is reasonable (asking $20k) but it has a built 350 sbc. How difficult would it be to swap a 351W or a 427 into it? The car runs and handles great and is in good to excellent condition, except for some badly needed new tires. I'm wondering if the car would be worth converting to "powered by Ford"?

Thanks for any help/advice.

Tommy 05-30-2012 06:13 AM

IMHO, the increase in market value from going to a SBF will be about the same as the cost of going to a SBF. Only you can measure how much the change will mean to you each time you stop for gas and some stranger asks, "Has that got a 427 in it?" BTW, I've never had a stranger ask, "Has that got a Ford engine in it?"

Danr55 05-30-2012 06:27 AM

IMHO, We drive these cars for fun. I don't think any of us expects them to be valued like an original.. well, not many of us. If you know everything about SBC and little or nothing about SBF leave it alone. The inverse is also true. It's your car. Make YOUR car. Of course if you decide to leave it with the SBC, you should get used to looking at the backside of lots of cars with Ford powerplants!

bret a ewing 05-30-2012 06:42 AM

If it runs with no problems, leave it.
I was at an "all makes" car show a few years ago. 500+ cars. A red cobra with silver stripes and a SBChebby engine won one of the big prizes. Tan interior, high back buckets double roll bar and to top it off, an automatic trans, sheesh.

I brought a midnight blue/no stripes NOS 427SO polished tunnel wedge Contemporary to the same show...................not even and honorable mention, hehehe !!

Most people have no idea what the heck they are looking at, so just enjoy it, if it blows up, put in a Ford engine.

jhv48 05-30-2012 07:34 AM

Why not just keep looking for the exact car you want and buy that one?

cobrarkc 05-30-2012 08:07 AM

To answer the question you will need to change the motor mount pads which Mickmate here on this forum can help you with. You will also have to alter the trans mount pad unless it has a toploader in it, but highly unlikely. The price is right so do what you want.

Tramsey 05-30-2012 08:34 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I do like the sbc and have a lot of experience with them,but there is something about that 427 sitting in the engine compartment.
Thanks again!

elmariachi 05-30-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tramsey (Post 1192916)
......but there is something about that 427 sitting in the engine compartment.
Thanks again!

Yes, that's why it was called a 427 Cobra instead of a 350 Cobra. Here, let me help you:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7...8071ccfc_c.jpg

Danr55 05-30-2012 09:51 AM

Well said!

mickmate 05-30-2012 10:09 AM

If you want help with motor mounts for FE into CCX let me know. If you put a 360 truck engine in it they fit all the valve covers, expansion tank etc and can be dressed up to look like a 427. Motor mounts are relatively cheap and easy compared to exhaust sytems and other necessary parts. I think there are some 427 Ford valve covers or adapter plates and other parts available to put on the SBC to change the appearance. Whatever makes you happy. The most common question you'll get is "Does it have a 427?" they don't ask Chev or Ford. If its set up for Chebby a BBC will drop right into SBC mounts won't it? Some of the fastest Cobras on here are Chev powered.

Hotfingrs 05-30-2012 10:35 AM

Do like I did, make a 450+ inch SBC... when they ask if it has a 427 you can tell them yes and 30 cubes more....

Tramsey 05-30-2012 10:47 AM

That's what I'm talking about - elmariachi. Nice engine!

bwcobra15 05-30-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tramsey (Post 1192944)
That's what I'm talking about - elmariachi. Nice engine!

You think it looks nice? You should hear it passing you on I-35 at about 110mph !

olddog 05-30-2012 07:16 PM

First find out if you can use the transmission or not, with a Ford engine. I expect not.

Then find out what you can sell the Chevy components that you will not re-use. Finally estimate what the replacement Ford components will cost you, plus the changing of mounts and any wiring. Do the math and see what it is going to cost you. Is it worth it to you?

If changing drive train was my intentions, I would have factored this in before making an offer.

Thor maine 05-30-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmariachi (Post 1192917)
Yes, that's why it was called a 427 Cobra instead of a 350 Cobra. Here, let me help you:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7...8071ccfc_c.jpg

How about a 240 Cobra or a 260 Cobra or a 289 Cobra or a 390 cobra or a 428 Cobra or a 427 T.O or 427 S.O !!!! Just in the Ford world there were a lot of choices. But here we go again " IT IS NOT A REAL COBRA... IT IS A HOT ROD THAT HAS THE COBRA SHAPE" That being said, today with parts availability cost, performance and durability, Chevy is a better choice. But if you are a Ford guy go Blue Oval and enjoy the ride!!! Long live the BowTie COBRA

elmariachi 05-31-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor maine (Post 1193029)
That being said, today with parts availability cost, performance and durability, Chevy is a better choice.

Nope, Ford is the better choice. ;)

Karl Bebout 05-31-2012 09:51 AM

Tramsey, The $20K price sounds good for the described car. In today's market, you can also surely find a bunch of cars in the same price range so it would come down, for me , at least, to the condition of the car, how well made it is, the braking system and chassis components. Generally I like the quality of the CCs much better than FFRs but I have seen a lot of really nice FFRs. Buy it cheap, drive the snot out of it, enjoy showing your tail lights to a whole lotta cars with SBFs and have fun with all the money you have left over by not having to pay big bucks for similar power by Ford.

Hotfingrs 05-31-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmariachi (Post 1193092)
Nope, Ford is the better choice. ;)

Is that your opinion or do you have facts that would support this??

elmariachi 05-31-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotfingrs (Post 1193113)
Is that your opinion or do you have facts that would support this??

Ugggghhhh. See post 15. My post 16 was a tongue-in-cheek response.

Thor maine 06-03-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmariachi (Post 1193119)
Ugggghhhh. See post 15. My post 16 was a tongue-in-cheek response.

WOW!!! It warms my heart to see that somebody from the Ford only in Cobra crowd has a sense of humor.


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