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Default Mecum auction right now in Kissimmee has one real Cobra and a few Shelby Mustangs

Sorry I meant two real Cobras, one originally delivered as a 289 but has some 427 body touches including mag wheels. they also have a 3000 series 427 Cobra.
The auction has over 4,000 cars. A guy on another website posted this list:


Friday January 6, 2023
J157 - 69 GT500 # 9F02R480492 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...ssfa-drag-car/
J186 - 68 GT500KR conv # 03731 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...r-convertible/
J211.1 - 67 GT500 # 01756 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/
J220 - 68 GT500 # 00748 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/

Saturday January 7, 2023
K145 - 65 Cobra 289 # CSX2516 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...obra-roadster/

Wednesday January 11, 2023
W152.1 - 70 GT350 # 0F02M483234 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...t350-fastback/
W263 - 69 GT350 # https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t350-fastback/

Thursday January 12, 2023
T150 - 68 GT500 conv # 02042 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...0-convertible/
T179 - 66 GT350 # 6S821 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...350h-fastback/

Friday January 13, 2023
F122 - 66 GT350 # 6S038 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...t350-fastback/
F123 - 66 GT350 # 6S553 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...350h-fastback/
F124 - 66 GT350 # 6S1234 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...350h-fastback/
F126 - 65 GT350 # 5S385 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...t350-fastback/
F132 - 68 GT500KR conv # 03353 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...r-convertible/
F134 - 68 GT350 conv # 03158 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...0-convertible/
F169 - 69 GT500 # 9F02R481135 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/
F177 - 66 Cobra 427 # CSX3270 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...obra-roadster/
F186 - 66 GT350 # 6S1249 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t350-fastback/
F186.1 - 69 GT350 # 9F02M480360 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t350-fastback/
F187 - 68 GT350H # 01058 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...350h-fastback/
F187.1 - 70 GT500 # 0F02R482835 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/
F188 - 69 GT350 conv # 9F03M482104 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...0-convertible/
F188.1 - 69 GT350 Shelby De Mexico #AF07JU20082 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...-mexico-gt350/
F189 - 70 GT350 # 0F02M482081 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t350-fastback/

Saturday January 14, 2023
S32.1 - 70 GT500 conv # https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...0-convertible/
S76.1 - 66 GT350H # 6S596 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...350h-race-car/
S114 - 68 GT500KR conv # 02276 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...r-convertible/
S115 - 68 GT500KR # 04070 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...00kr-fastback/
S146 - 65 Cobra 289 # CSX2517 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...obra-roadster/
S171 - 65 Cobra Dragonsnake # CSX2427 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...a-dragonsnake/
S171.1 - 66 GT350 # 6S311 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...t350-fastback/
S173 - 68 GT500KR conv # 04080 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...r-convertible/
S216.1 - 64 King Cobra # CM 5/64 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...co-king-cobra/
S225.1 - 67 GT500 # 02896 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/
S235 - 67 GT40 Mark IV # J-10 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-54...rd-gt40-mk-iv/
S244.1 - 65 Cobra 427 # CSX3063 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...obra-roadster/

Sunday January 13, 2023
U53.1 69 GT500 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t500-fastback/
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On the auction website, in a sub-auction called On Time, they have an auction selling memorabilia--a Porsche collection and a Shelby American collection,the latter having lots of pictures and you can see the current price for each one. That sale extends to the end of January. Here's the auction description:

https://ontime.mecum.com/auction/she...ons/Here's a partial description
of the 63 Items: 63


The Shelby American / Le Mans - Sports Car Racing Collection was curated by a lifelong California-based sports car racing enthusiast with a focus on eye-catching vintage racing posters from around the world. The assemblage encompasses a broad range of unique collectibles sure to appeal to both sports car and racing fans and followers, including some of the rarest Shelby American items from the company's founding through 1966, as well as Le Mans photographs from noted photographer Dave Friedman. This special collection is full of desirable items that will delight enthusiasts of the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans race, Ferrari sports racing cars and the most discerning Shelby American collectors alike.

This is the actual auction site so you can follow bids:https://ontime.mecum.com/auction/she...20/bidgallery/

In Mecum's Road Art category, there's two canvas prints--a shelby portrait and Comp 289 portrait--both scheduled to cross the block Jan.9th

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Most people find it quite distasteful when you use someone elses hard work and post it as your own:

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=21524.msg


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I think he qualified the list as not being his own quite well in his final sentence.
“A guy on another website posted this list:“
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I think he qualified the list as not being his own quite well in his final sentence.
“A guy on another website posted this list:“

I was thinking the same, he wasn't claiming the fame for the work.
In all honesty i wouldn't have seen or read it without Historybuff posting it on Clubcobra...I personally have never heard of the SAAC forum or site, maybe its geared towards Original Shelby Owners

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Guess I'm a little more sensitive to such things, as I had a similar "content borrower/reposter" use an article I wrote 20 years ago, without my permission, or a reference to myself as the author. For someone else to repost another users hard work/content, without giving credit, at least to me, is not taken well.

Mr Wyss above has his own works published, I'm certain if the shoe was on the other foot, he too would not like being on the other end of the same scenario.

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But HistoryBuff did not post something someone else wrote but what someone else has posted. And made a statement that made that really clear.
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I thank you for the list
Will help me follow the aution

BTW CSX3063 appears to have been removed from the Registry after a lengthy discussion as to its origin. Started as a Ghia ... Should have stayed one...
S244.1 - 65 Cobra 427 # CSX3063 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...obra-roadster/
They claim that but they also claim it as the last chassis - Cobra. Will be interesting to see if it hits reserve as the last dealer selling it claimed it was the last S/C and >$1.5MM

My guess it will stall at $325k, long but interesting story car.
It had a post here long ago.

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But HistoryBuff did not post something someone else wrote but what someone else has posted. And made a statement that made that really clear.
You would really have to be in my old shoes to understand where I am coming from. The easiest way to explain it would be the old saying "credit, where credit is do". A simple link to the original post, or a mention of who made the original post and where it was taken from, would have negated my posts on this thread, and this general discussion as a whole. Once again, History Buff, AKA: Wallace Wyss, has published articles and books out in the world, he of all people should know, and follow the proper etiquette of using other peoples published (posted) works, just like he would want if someone used his posts (essentially published online in this case) and hard work.

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The guy that compiled the list and originally posted it on the SAAC site is Brian Littlefield.
There, credit where credit is due.
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You would really have to be in my old shoes to understand where I am coming from. The easiest way to explain it would be the old saying "credit, where credit is do". A simple link to the original post, or a mention of who made the original post and where it was taken from, would have negated my posts on this thread, and this general discussion as a whole. Once again, History Buff, AKA: Wallace Wyss, has published articles and books out in the world, he of all people should know, and follow the proper etiquette of using other peoples published (posted) works, just like he would want if someone used his posts (essentially published online in this case) and hard work.

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CSX2516 at auction
Original video via Mecum
Audio by Mecum
I simply recorded and had nothing to do with production other than watching.
No claims to any involvement

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$825K seems a bargain - yes?
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That’s $907,500 with fee.
Average I would say.
No race history
Not concours level
Nothing but street car
I think good for buyer and seller.

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CSX3270 sold at $1,300,000 plus fee
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Im curious, in the 4000 continuations is there a number in the sequence that lets you know if the car is an Aluminum or Fiberglass body?
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As I understand it no, easy to tell visually.
1) typical glass car no Ferrell in door
2) glass car dash has angle versus a roll.
There are a number of other slight differences.
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No there is not and to top that, a lot of fiberglass cars were rebodied to aluminum
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Im curious, in the 4000 continuations is there a number in the sequence that lets you know if the car is an Aluminum or Fiberglass body?
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No....
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Tony makes the 3rd No, so its official.....All continuations can be either Fiberglass(Superformance) or Aluminum(Kirkham) But they all have one thing in common , there is a CSX before the 4000
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