Oil Capacity!

Turk · #1 (**permalink**) 08-13-2001, 11:51 PM

I am not sure if this has been answered before, but here it goes.

I am running a 427 Side Oiler-Aviaid Oil Pan-Remote Oil filter-Oil Cooler.

Aviaid claims 10 quarts in their pan, ERA remote filter and Oil cooler calls for an additional quart and a half.

If anyone else out there running the same set up as mine, Does this mean you are runnig 11.5 quarts of oil in your car?

TURK

GUMBALL · #2 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 01:33 PM

Turk,

I have oredered the same setup from ERA an believe that 1.5 extra is correct. However, I too have the Aviaid pan and believe it to be 9-qt. Are you sure yours is 10-qt.?

John

Turk · #3 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 03:22 PM

Gumball
That is what the young man who answered the phone call said yesterday.
Why don't you give them a call also, and see if you get the same answer.

TURK

GUMBALL · #4 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 03:38 PM

Turk,

Called Aviaid and the young man on the phone insisted that the 427 Cobra pan is 9-qt. (part #55410)

http://www.aviaid.com/index2.html

He also suggested to add an extra 1-2 qts for the remote setup with oil cooler. I believe you want to use 10.5 qts. TOTAL.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

John

Turk · #5 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 03:47 PM

John,
That is great. I better go add a couple more quarts.
I want some reference point so that I can engrave the dipstick to show where the full mark is and where the low oil mark should be.

If I add another quart and a half and let it settle for a few hours that will be 9.5 quarts. I can mark that as "add a quart", and then add the last quart and wait a while and mark that line as "Full".

65cobra427 · #6 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 03:56 PM

Turk,

I would add 2 more lines below the "add 1 Quart"... These should be equally spaced, (providing the pan is linear) and be marked as follows: "add 2 Quarts" & "ohhh $hit!!!"... LOL and good luck... BTW the car looks great!!!

Turk · #7 (**permalink**) 08-14-2001, 10:49 PM

65cobra427

Why would anyone on an Island need a Cobra?
Do you ever get a chance to get it out of 1st. gear?
How big are those islands anyways?

Thanks for the kind words on the car. I wish I could take all the credit. Many hands helped. I am the fortunate one who will enjoy it.

TURK

ArubaCobra · #8 (**permalink**) 08-15-2001, 05:21 PM

Turk, I have been asked that same question many times. my Unique 427 SC kit is arriving next week, and when I am finished with it I will let you know if I get a chance to get it into 2nd gear.
One thing is for sure, It will be the only Cobra in Aruba.
BTW congratulations on a job well done. I hope mine comes out half as nice as yours did. Hope you are enjoying it.
greetings
Andre

PS, I hold the Aruba pro stock track record at 7.18 sec. 1/4 mile @196 MPH, and I shift 4 times in those 7 sec. ,so I think I will be able to get past 1st in the cobra

Turk · #9 (**permalink**) 08-15-2001, 08:01 PM

ArubaCobra
I am going to attempt to demonstrate my ignorance. How big is Aruba. I ought to know that. Many years ago I was employed as a Greyhound Bus Driver. I remember going on a 1 week chartered tour with a bus load of visitors from Aruba, and I must tell you I had more fun during that trip any other before and after.
I was absolutely amazed at the multi linguality of folks living in the Dutch Antellies (spelling).

I was determined to take a trip to your island one day. Instead I blew all my money on cars and motorcycles. I will one day.

If you are capable of attaining speeds in 196 mph range, it is you that I am envious of. It doesn't matter how yours come out, obviously it will be in more competent hands than mine is.

Thanks for the compliments.

TURK

Cobra20646 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-15-2001, 08:46 PM

Turk,
I had a similar problem determining the correct "full" mark on my dip stick. When I got the car, it had a Mr. Gasket stick in it.
After the first oil change, ( I have an 8 quart pan ) the oil level on the stick was about one half inches below the full mark.
So what to believe..... the stick...... the pan....... what to do

So I went out and bought a NOS dip stick and matching tube. Cost me only 15 bucks. I now feel confident of where the correct full mark is........ which in my case was right on the mark after adding 8 quarts in the pan. With the old stick, I guess that there was about a quart to maybe two quarts too much oil in the pan.
- Jim -

PS the depth of the pan, or the quantity in the pan is not the issue. It's the correct measurement of the full mark that indicates the upper level of the oil, hence the distance between it and the crank shaft. Don't want to have the crank whipping up the oil.

Melzer · #11 (**permalink**) 08-16-2001, 02:42 AM

Hey Turk.....

Saw the photos of your car, just wanted to congratulate you on your beautiful ERA......real sharp!!

Got the itch sooo bad i couldn't wait for an ERA.....just bought a previously owned turnkey E.M. car with 427 center oiler.

Would be great to see pics of your finished car.......

hmmm, still trying to figure out why that brass tank doesn't dispense my tea on time....oh well....Keep the shiny side up, ride, drive safely....

melzer

ArubaCobra · #12 (**permalink**) 08-16-2001, 08:44 AM

Turk, Aruba is about 19 miles long, and & miles wide at the widest point. there are a couple of roads where i will be able to get on it a bit, and then there is always the dragstrip. Aruba has a great street legal program every other weekend, so you can be sure that i will be out there trying to win the point series.
check out these links.
this one is my toy
http://www.timmcamis.com/eman_loonstra.html

and here is some info on Aruba
http://www.interknowledge.com/aruba/index.htm

greetings
Andre

Turk · #13 (**permalink**) 08-17-2001, 01:53 AM

Aruba Cobra
I still would like to see a picture of your toy. The two links you posted were both of Aruba, not your car.
Pasa un bon dia.

If I decide to take a trip to Aruba,can you make some recommendations as to when to come and where to stay. Can I borrow your car?
Ok...Ok.. How about two out of three?

Melzer
It sure would be nice to see a picture of the "FINISHED CAR".
My sentiments exactly.
Thanks for the well wishes, at this point in time both sides of the car are "shinny". So you may want to come up with a safer send off for me. It may be a valid comment after driving it through the first rain storm, but for now keeping the shinny side up is not very comforting.

TURK

Cobra20646
My dipstick came with no markings, since they don't know what kind of a pan it is going in. It is kind a "UNLISTED" dipstick. Kind ascary, I need to be a little more exact than, "I Think it is enough oil".

Cobra20646 · #14 (**permalink**) 08-17-2001, 10:27 AM

Turk,
My thoughts exactly. I'm not sure you got the picture I was tring to explain.
Try this one.....
1. A stock dip stick has a full mark at "X" location on it.
2. A stock engine pan "full" of oil will "wet" the dip stick to the
aforementioned full mark.
3. A pan "full" of oil will come to within "X" inches of the
centerline of the crank shaft.

An aftermarket stick like you have will have to be marked in the correct location. This should not be a guess as you have stated.

If your dip stick tube enters the engine block or timing cover, you can purchase a stock tube and stick and be confident of the 'full' mark.

If your dip stick tube enters directly through the side of the pan, your going to have to do some creative drafting (drawing) to recreate the stock oil level (distance from crank centerline) in order to transfer this level to your unmarked dip stick.

Good luck........... it's always something

- Jim -

this is clear as mud right?

ArubaCobra · #15 (**permalink**) 08-17-2001, 01:12 PM

Hi turk, I corrected the link. and will post it here again
http://www.timmcamis.com/eman_loonstra.html
Yes of course I can give recomendations on where to stay, and anytime is a good time to come to Aruba. The weather is always great. We shall see about the borrowig my car part, but we can definetely go driving around in mine while your here
Greetings
Andre

Turk · #16 (**permalink**) 08-17-2001, 04:03 PM

Andre
Nice looking car!! Obviously fast enough!
I understand why you wouldn't want to loan your Cobra to a total stranger, so that he may have transportation while visiting your beautiful island.
How about the race car? Can I use that one?

TURK

ArubaCobra · #17 (**permalink**) 08-17-2001, 07:37 PM

Jeez, thats even worse than asking me to borrow my cobra.
I'll let you use my OLDsmobile. hey, don't knock it, I have won many first places in street legal with that car. And its got airconditioning!! Would you let me borrow yours?
pasa un bon nochi
Andre

Turk · #18 (**permalink**) 08-18-2001, 02:44 AM

Are you CRAZY? Of course not!

TURK

ArubaCobra · #19 (**permalink**) 08-18-2001, 05:27 PM

Turk, my father always used to say to me that if someone wants to borrow your car from your better of lending them your wife, cause they can't break her, she'd probably come back laughing, and if the didn't return her you would probably be happy anyway.( dutch humor)
greetings
Andre

Turk · #20 (**permalink**) 08-19-2001, 12:08 AM

Andre,
I hope your spouse enjoys Dutch humor too.
What is her email address? I think I should share the order of priorities in your life with her.
1-Car.
2-Wife.

Is there anything else in between, that I missed!!

TURK