Jag inboard e brake question

[Akimbeau]

I pulled my rear end out and did a tear down to facilitate rust removal and repaint of subframe and parts. I also decided to upgrade to vented Wilwood rotors while I had things apart. One of the pads for the ebrake seperated from its backing plate, looks like it was bonded to the plate with some glue. I don't want to source and buy and wait for a new set and was wondering if I couldn't just re-glue it to it's base plate. The pads are in very good shape other than one falling off its base. Anybody got a suggestion for what to use as an adhesive...something to withstand a bit of heat.

Kim

[DanEC]

It would have to be a high temp resistant adhesive but I'm not sure I would try that. Too much to risk if it comes loose again and breaks up or shucks the lining out of the caliper and the backing plate scores the rotor. Since you are obviously trying to improve braking performance, why not source out some high quality, riveted pads to replace those?

Please post some photos of your upgrade - I think a number of readers would be interested in your project to install vented discs.

[joyridin']

Yes, you can do it. A local auto parts store used to rebuild brake shoes years ago that you could not buy anymore. They gave me some type of glue and I used it to glue new pad material on backing plates for a motorcycle I had. It lasted for years until I got rid of the bike and it saw water, mud, rocks, you name it during that time and was used a LOT.

I do not recall the name, but it was a 2-part style epoxy and you can buy it over the counter.

[CHANMADD]

The way pads are made is they are glued ....but then baked in an oven to cure the adhesion. Look it up

[Dangerous Doug]

What's the leadtime on the part? Seems like you'll invest more time searching for the proper glue and technique than you would if you just ordered the part.

I've bought parts from XK's Unlimited in San Luis Obispo, Ca before. They are Jaguar AND Cobra specialists.

DD

[Akimbeau]

Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug

What's the leadtime on the part? Seems like you'll invest more time searching for the proper glue and technique than you would if you just ordered the part.

I've bought parts from XK's Unlimited in San Luis Obispo, Ca before. They are Jaguar AND Cobra specialists.

DD

I can get the parts in a couple of days. In fact the vented rotor kit I ordered from XK's Unlimited. I can't imagine the ebrakes get that hot seeing how they only contact the rotor when they're working. I guess I'll order a new set and sit it out.

Kim

[Akimbeau]

Originally Posted by DanEC

It would have to be a high temp resistant adhesive but I'm not sure I would try that. Too much to risk if it comes loose again and breaks up or shucks the lining out of the caliper and the backing plate scores the rotor. Since you are obviously trying to improve braking performance, why not source out some high quality, riveted pads to replace those?

Please post some photos of your upgrade - I think a number of readers would be interested in your project to install vented discs.

All the e brake pads seem to be glued...can't find any riveted ones.

I've been taking photos of my project and when I get a bit further along in the brake install I'll post some of them.

Kim

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by Akimbeau

All the e brake pads seem to be glued...can't find any riveted ones.

I've been taking photos of my project and when I get a bit further along in the brake install I'll post some of them.

Kim

Lots of brake pads are bonded instead of riveted. It was always my understanding that heavier duty and higher performance pads and shoes were usually riveted. But, I could be wrong on that understanding.

Good luck on the project.

[patrickt]

Unless you're doing handbrake turns, why would handbrake pads ever wear out at all?

[PeteF]

Does the e-brake have separate pads ? I thought the e-brake just actuated the rear brakes manually vs hydraulically.

[1795]

For most situations that is true, the hand brake mechanically engages the rear brakes instead of hydraulically. There are some cobras in which there are separate brake pads that work on the driveshaft from what I recall for the parking brake. There are some automobiles and trucks that incorporate disc brakes for braking, and then have a drum brake for the parking brake.

[strictlypersonl]

Originally Posted by PeteF

Does the e-brake have separate pads ? I thought the e-brake just actuated the rear brakes manually vs hydraulically.

Jag emergency brake service

[Large Arbor]

Drifting???

[Akimbeau]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Unless you're doing handbrake turns, why would handbrake pads ever wear out at all?

Exactly! And these pads look brand new, yet one just fell off its backing...the car has less than 2700 miles in 13 years...it sat for over 10 years.

[joyridin']

Just use JB Weld. It works great but not above about 400 degrees. The brakes are only for parking anyhow, so it will not matter. I would not use it on regular pads.

[Akimbeau]

Originally Posted by joyridin'

Just use JB Weld. It works great but not above about 400 degrees. The brakes are only for parking anyhow, so it will not matter. I would not use it on regular pads.

Ha! That's what I ended up doing! I saw so many success stories on the internet using JB Weld on BRAKE SHOES! and not one failure story. I would never use it on regular brakes...just to hot..but the e brake won't get that hot...I hope.

[DanEC]

Missed the part about this was the emergency brake pad. JB Weld is a pretty versatile material.

[mr0077]

Well, timely thread...on a related note, the handbrake on #598 needs adjusting. It has a mid '80's Jag rear end, handbrake and rear calipers. From what I remember, it is self-adjusting if the mechanism doesn't seize up, so two questions:
1. Is there an access panel behind the seats that will allow access to the calipers?
2. If no access panel, how the *%#&!! do you get to the handbrake mechanism??!?

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by mr0077

Well, timely thread...on a related note, the handbrake on #598 needs adjusting. It has a mid '80's Jag rear end, handbrake and rear calipers. From what I remember, it is self-adjusting if the mechanism doesn't seize up, so two questions:
1. Is there an access panel behind the seats that will allow access to the calipers?
2. If no access panel, how the *%#&!! do you get to the handbrake mechanism??!?

First of all, it sounds like you may not have a copy of the shop manual on your car which would address this. You can contact ERA and they can send you one or give you a link to a web copy.

Also they have a FAQ site that addresses many common questions.

Manual Supplements and Addenda

There is an access panel behind the seats that allows access to the in-board Jag calipers for pad repair, bleeding, etc. To access it the seats have to come out. Your car may have a fiberglass tunnel so there may be some minor differences in what's required versus my car. Removing the transmission tunnel at the same time will give you access to the emergency brake mechanism and cables and should allow you to adjust it. The tunnel should be screwed down to the floor panels. Again, your mechanism may vary a little from mine but the appropriate model version of the assembly manual should explain the adjustment.