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Old 07-19-2008, 04:36 AM
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Great first post there Stoney.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:42 AM
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Great first post there Stoney.
It's one of those "let's start another us vs them" threads.


Didn't we just make inroads not that long ago to stop the bickering between forums and manufacturers?

As for the topic that he would like to discuss, all he needs to do is a search as that subject has been discussed Ad Nauseum since 1999.

Oh well, two steps forward, three steps back


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Old 07-25-2008, 10:22 PM
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Great first post there Stoney.
I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not. Considering your current position on the forum now, I see that you have grown tired of some things over there too.

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Anyway.. this forum is gone to the ****ter. Good luck folks. I'm outta here. Can I get a partial refund to my Lifetime Membership?
If you stick with your decision, I for one will be sorry to see you go. You've always had good things to offer over there. For the most part I still like it over there. I just try to avoid or ignore what pisses me off from time to time. I guess you have to do that on any forum. There's always someone available to disagree with anything one posts.

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sometimes it is forgotten that these forums are really about the people and not the cars, and certainly not about the vendors.
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I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not. Considering your current position on the forum now, I see that you have grown tired of some things over there too.
Yup...REAL tired. Go get the Konis. The ride improvement will be well worth the $500. I have the old ProShocks and replaced the rears with the Vintage Motorsports Carreras. Night and day difference. I'll be plumping down the $500 for the Konis this week. I know you're standing on principle here but just let it go and go get the Konis. You won't be sorry.
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I do believe I mentioned expensive options somewhere in this thread. I agree with Todd though, bite the bullit and get the Koni's; your life may depend on it.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:30 PM
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I love the way that


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It's not the shock, it's a geometry problem, coupled with flexing suspension mounts.
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It's not the shock, it's a geometry problem, coupled with flexing suspension mounts.
Please share. Do you have any data to back that statement up mr. bruce? I know the location of the front lower CA inner mount isn't optimal but I can't see any geometry problems that would cause things to break.
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I guess I'm looking at this all wrong.

It seems to me that we (all FFR owners) built/bought a home made race car from a reputable manufacturer.

A flaw has been discovered, documented and addressed. The stock Bilstein shocks are probably not up to the chassis' requirements and MAY break for a variety of reasons.

Several solutions have been offered.

Now, everyone, choose one and let's move on.

I personally miss the "love fest".
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FFR doesn't deserve a pass on this, IMO they supplied an inadequate product (not just the B-Steins, but the bad springs) so any online beating they take over this issue is just TS.

Bruce, if it's a geometry/flex problem why do the B-Steins also break in the back on the IRS cars, and most importantly, why didn't the Pro and QA-1 shocks break with regularity? Not to mention the Konis sold by Gordon Levy.
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Has anyone seen or experienced a broken shock? It came at me out of the blue on a straight road without any potholes. After putting so many miles on mine and it just breaking, I just won't run the Bilsteins again.
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