The SOHC returns

[twobjshelbys]

The Cammer is back!

http://www.pahorsepower.com/page8/page8.html

[RodKnock]

The Cammer has been back.

KC sells one for $40K and Barry R has one for $50K.

Who are these guys? I haven't heard of them.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

The Cammer has been back.

KC sells one for $40K and Barry R has one for $50K.

And that's exactly who I'd buy it from. Right after RodKnock does. Patrickt said he'd give me the money.

[RodKnock]

Barry's 527ci SOHC is asking $50K, but he said he would take a rational offer. It's his almost-EMC entry from last year that never made it to the challenge.

KC's was priced around $39K. If someone wanted one built, then they could probably do it cheaper using less-trick parts.

A Cammer is only a dream.

Actually, I'd be very happy to find a nice set of magnesium Halibrands.

[Buzz]

Patrickt said he'd give me the money.

Same here, but when I still refused to join the dual padded roll bar cult, he changed his mind.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Actually, I'd be very happy to find a nice set of magnesium Halibrands.

Do you have the link to Barry's SOHC? Couldn't find it on his site.

I know this is a SOHC thread, but brief digression - wasn't there a group order a while back on magnesium Halibrands? Why didn't you order then?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

Do you have the link to Barry's SOHC? Couldn't find it on his site.

I know this is a SOHC thread, but brief digression - wasn't there a group order a while back on magnesium Halibrands? Why didn't you order then?

Here's the link:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/75943...able+very+soon

"We" were soliciting interest so that we could get an order of magnesium wheels into production, but they never went into production.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Same here, but when I still refused to join the dual padded roll bar cult, he changed his mind.

Money always has strings attached.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

http://www.network54.com/Forum/75943...able+very+soon

Nice engine. 850+HP might be overkill in a cobra. Also, in addition to the normal modifications, I bet you'd have issues with the height of that intake as well.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

"We" were soliciting interest so that we could get an order of magnesium wheels into production, but they never went into production.

Maybe try again? With the economy in the tank, maybe they would have more interest now?

[RodKnock]

The height of that intake would be the least of my issues. Spending $50K, or even $40K on that engine, would be the beginning of my issues. Then adding to my list of issues would be modifying my car for that engine.

But, hey, if someone is willing to give me $35K +/- for my 482, then I'd strongly consider it.

Regarding the magnesium Halibrand wheels, I'm assuming interest in spending $3,000 +/- for a new set of wheels would be minimal due to the economy.

[twobjshelbys]

My conclusion is that if you intend to use a SOHC engine you should have the car built to accommodate it. "Remodeling" it after the fact is pretty hard. Foot boxes on both sides, pedals and steering all need to be moved.

[marcocsx3121]

As I've noted in the past, the SOHC engine fits in an original 427 Cobra. I've posted pics of Carter Gette's cammer-powered car, which had a single four barrel carb and a low air cleaner that even fit under the stock hood.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

My conclusion is that if you intend to use a SOHC engine you should have the car built to accommodate it. "Remodeling" it after the fact is pretty hard. Foot boxes on both sides, pedals and steering all need to be moved.

Remodeling after or before is the same thing, but for the fact that you have to pull the FE that's in the car already and you have to buy some new parts, namely the SOHC engine.

Throttle and steering linkage, headers, footboxes, etc. all have to be redone in either case. It's not breaking any new ground. In fact, at the time my engine and tranny were being installed, there was a Kirkham at the same shop having a Cammer installed.

I could never do it, but for someone who's performed the change on a number of occasions, it's no big deal.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I could never do it, but for someone who's performed the change on a number of occasions, it's no big deal.

Correct. If I were to do it (which I have no desire to do so), it would take nothing more than reserving a slot on ERA's work schedule, putting the car in transport, having the cammer shipped directly to CT, and then signing my name. Piece of cake.

[tin-man]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Regarding the magnesium Halibrand wheels, I'm assuming interest in spending $3,000 +/- for a new set of wheels would be minimal due to the economy.

RodKnock, can you help me understand the benefits of having magnesium Halibrands installed on a Cobra? Is it just to be period correct or are there other intrinsic benefits associated with having these wheels?

Do they add value?

I would appreciate hearing your view on this.

EDIT
Apologies everyone, RodKnock, perhaps you can send me a pm so I don't appear to be hijacking this thread. I know, I know, I just did, thus the apologies

Thanks, tin-man

[Keithc8]

Yes you can build a Cammer if that is what you want. All I heard for two years is why don't you build a Cmmer, everybody wants one but no one has one. You will sell it because it takes about a year to get one built. Well I built one and it has been for sale for about 6 months now and no one has stepped up to buy it. It is a very nice street engine that will run great on the street or strip. Will be very durable the way it is built with the low lift cam shaft and over kill parts.
I know the economy is slow but I have probably built the last Cammer unless it is a special order. Like I said evry body wanted one till it was done and ready to go. Check the prices of parts and machine work and you will find that it would be hard to build for less than what I have this one for sale for. A lot of people think they can do it and then after 2 years and jacked up stuff they understand a little better.
Yeh the Cammer is back, big deal.

Good luck, Keith Craft

[dcdoug]

Come on Rodknock, just buy it. We don't want KC to stop building them. They are far too cool.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

Come on Rodknock, just buy it. We don't want KC to stop building them. They are far too cool.

I would love too, but for 1/2 the price (or more) of a SOHC, you get a brand new all-aluminum 482. And then the work starts on the mods.

I think at $30K, the SOHC might be price-competitive, but at $40K, well not so much.

Regarding the magnesium Halibrands, I just think they're cool. I like the look of the gold dichromate when new, I like the look as they age, they came on the CSX3000's and they're much lighter, which means something to me. Yes, I think they add value, but that's my opinion. The next guy might not.

[rodneym]

I feel for Keith. You can cut through his post with a knife.

What's happening to him is the probably the same thing that would happen to the person who invests in making magnesium wheels or Sunbursts. A lot of chatter and little sales. I've seriously considered investing in Sunbursts molds myself, paying for tooling and subcontracting the work. But is it worth it? Certainly not monetarily. There's that dentist who seems to be close but haven't heard from him in a while.

I think it would be pretty cool for a company to come along and 'pick up the pieces' and missing links to our cars but sh*t, that's a lot of investing for the phone to ring a few times a year. Not to mention having too many irons in the fire.

rodneym

[joyridin']

I've been down that road a few times myself, although for a ton less money than you. I used to have a Lil Red Express. Everybody wanted lowering spindles for 72-93 1/2 ton trucks. I built them using a company I know. Sold a whopping 1 set and I took a beating to get rid of them. On the Mopar site, people still ask for them, but make them and nobody buys them.

Deposits up front to at least cover costs.