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Old 07-24-2012, 07:44 PM
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460's with CJ heads breathe 100% better than low-riser 428 heads the OP has. That's why those minor improvements produce such results. Not a helpful comparison.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:46 AM
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Jam a couple of turbos on the old girl!! That'll liven things up a bit!!!
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ERA427 You have the same problem as other guys with cobras and running a 400hp/450torkmotor. You are trying to push a barn door through the air. If you want to stay with this motor and give the car some more pickup,here are the 2 things to change, Mufflers and gears. Mufflers have been covered here with the internal size of the inlets and outlets. You will pick 20-28HP in top end if you go from 2" centers to 2 1/2". You also will need ear protection with the louder exhaust. You have an overdrive 5 speed trans. What is the rear end gearing? We need to go up in numbers from say a 3.07 to either a 3.31 or 3.54. This will give you a faster car from "0" to "100".
I have been running 3.31 gears with both motors. I do have 2 different trannies for the tracks. The trick is the keep the motor in the power band all the time between torque and HP. YOu want the motor to cruise in the torque band at about 750 rpms from where it starts and no more than 500 rpms pass where the motor HP maxes out. After this you are just wasteing motor.
You also need to remember the air drag keeps doubling every 10 mph added to the speed of the car.
Suggestions, want more power, build another motor that is aluminum to save weight on the car and a stroker in the 480-527 range. Save this motor (428)for a rainy day or resale. Other ideas are to build a windsor stroker motor. This about 1/3 less in cost and parts are easier to buy and build with. Power limit will be in the 400-800HP and 300- 675 ft of torque ranges.
Last, not sure of your driving ability, but when you start getting to this kind of power numbers, your driving skills better improve to hand this killer. Been there,done this too. The different between 368h and 448 of torque and 540hp and 620 of torque is HUGE. Find out what the gearing is too start. I think you will be happy going up 1 higher number of ratio. You can get a Jag center section and swap over all other parts. Good luck. Rick L.

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ERA Chas - He mentioned he's running a 428 with the stock Cobra Jet heads is the reason I gave my comparison. The 428/429 CJ heads are what's used on the 460. Maybe I misunderstood the original post or yours, but in either case - he needs more air in or out which will produce more power. Not too much air out as this will reduce torque (the go that get's you there faster). Anyway, my .02 worth, thought it would help. See ya.
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ERA Chas - He mentioned he's running a 428 with the stock Cobra Jet heads is the reason I gave my comparison. The 428/429 CJ heads are what's used on the 460. M.
The 460 you have is a 385 series engine-his is a 428 FE; two completely different engine and head designs. Yours came later and are superior to his. The 'CJ' moniker is Ford marketing BS but used on two different-headed engines.
We both agree-he needs more head flow
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