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FUNFER2 06-19-2016 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1395313)
Why not just commission an engine build to Blykins (or Craft Engines, or Barry, etc) and tell him what you are after and let them source it and build it for you.
Money. A pro build is around 12k-15k. If I can get the parts and Chad & I assemble, it would save a lot of moola

Just a example for a 445ci 390 bottom end.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251383264383...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

patrickt 06-19-2016 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395315)
Money. A pro build is around 12k-15k. If I can get the parts and Chad & I assemble, it would save a lot of moola

Just a example for a 445ci 390 bottom end.

Ford FE 390 Based Stroker Short Block 444CID Steel Internals Giant Blower 428 | eBay
Google "390FE Crate Engine" and you'll get a rough feel for some of the costs that are out there. For example, this place, of which I know absolutely nothing, Ford Performance Crate Engines quotes some pretty interesting prices (note they use your core or tack on another grand or so). Personally, I think you present a "high risk" for completing your build if you tackle it yourself. Just sayin'....:cool:

blykins 06-19-2016 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395315)
Money. A pro build is around 12k-15k. If I can get the parts and Chad & I assemble, it would save a lot of moola

Just a example for a 445ci 390 bottom end.

Ford FE 390 Based Stroker Short Block 444CID Steel Internals Giant Blower 428 | eBay
I wouldn't put much stock there.....that's a picture of a sbf.

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 06:14 PM
It does read 390 though ?

"This is one of our new Giant series engine short blocks
Ford FE 390 block 444 cid stroker short block".

patrickt 06-19-2016 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395324)
It does read 390 though ?

"This is one of our new Giant series engine short blocks
Ford FE 390 block 444 cid stroker short block".
Sometimes internet engine builders and parts people aren't always 100% truthful.:LOL:

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 06:17 PM
" Personally, I think you present a "high risk" for completing your build if you tackle it yourself"

Now why, would you say that ?

Chad and I have built many sprint car engines, for our sprint and other for other teams, for over 10 years with NO, breakage. Plus, we built my 428FE and it ran awesome !

Bernica 06-19-2016 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395309)
Wow, a lot to mull over.

New Rods will be from $450-$550.

The machining can't really be forecasted yet.

Would need a complete set of heads. (really like the newer BBM's heads)

Intake

Carb.

When I got ripped by the original engine builder, I had most all parts sponsored by some of the best part manufactures out there. I explained to them what happened. I guess I should pull my tail back out of my ass, and contact them again to see if we could again, come to a deal. I'm sure the editors of the magazines would publish the build again. I just hate to ask AGAIN..... :rolleyes:

Since the builder also stole my almost new,... hard drive camcorder..., tri-pod, bag and my Sony camera. So, there's a expense too. :CRY:

It was hours & hours,...working on the published build and with my bad health, I don't know if I could do it again ???

besides my other chronic pain issue, three years ago I had a problem with my diabetes and such a bad infection that my blood went "septic". Total of 24 days in our hospital. I was flown to the Mayo's clinic in Minnesota, almost unresponsive. The team of specialist Doc's told us that one more day without their aid, I'd been done for. The flight alone was $17,500. Total bill was $186,000. We're still working with the Hospitals, Doctors, MedFlight and insurance company's. (I love flying, but not that time) lol

Years ago, we had great,...insurance, but 8 years ago, my wife's employer "Molex" sold to another billionaire family, and they changed to Blue Cross Blue Shield, and it sucks ! lol...:mad: All employees are pissed !

Sorry for the boring story, I just want everyone to know what I'm working against, and rather than giving up, I'm doing the best I can, to gain back my 'Sprit For Life".

Getting my Cobra back & driving/showing, will help a lifetime :D

Thanks for your help guys ! :cool:
Kevin,
I am truly sorry to hear about your troubles. But I still believe that if you just fly to Chicago, check it out and make your deal you will have what you really want and something to pin on your bucket list and never look back! :cool:
Just my 2c

patrickt 06-19-2016 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395327)
Chad and I have built many sprint car engines, for our sprint and other for other teams, for over 10 years with NO, breakage. Plus, we built my 428FE and it ran awesome !
That was then. This is now. Do yourself a favor and have it built by someone you know and trust and who can do it within a reasonable budget.:cool:

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 06:38 PM
That was then .
What has changed ?

Chad builds most of the engine's and teaches me.
He has a automotive business and also a performance side of the shop. He builds a lot of different types of performance engines, from daily drivers, oval track, drag and road course. He also built the blown Bear Foot monster truck motor.

He has the machining farmed out to a local engine builder, but that's it.

He also has a chassis dyno that he tunes for anyone. Even sprint cars engines, while in the
in the car. Funny how we managed that the first time years ago.

So, I have all the confidence in the world is his ability.

Why do you doubt me/us ? :mad:

Bernica 06-19-2016 06:42 PM
Just get the block and figure it out from there. A nice motor!:cool:

patrickt 06-19-2016 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395331)

Why do you doubt me/us ? :mad:
Oh, I don't know, other than your chronic pain issue, problems with diabetes, the bad infections, "septic" blood, a month in the hospital, almost "boxing out" at Mayo.... what could go wrong?:rolleyes:

Bernica 06-19-2016 06:48 PM
Get the damn block and figure it out from there!!!
If you don't, I will.;)

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1395333)
Oh, I don't know, other than your chronic pain issue, problems with diabetes, the bad infections, "septic" blood, a month in the hospital, almost "boxing out" at Mayo.... what could go wrong?:rolleyes:
Lol,.....at least we can laugh about it. Does spirt good. ;)

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1395334)
Get the damn block and figure it out from there!!!
If you don't, I will.;)
I've left a phone message and pm on the ebay ad. I hope to be contacted soon.

Why do you guys suppose no one has bought it yet ?

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 07:42 PM
Have to also keep this in mind.

The ebay NOS Side Oiler- $4,800 (asking price)

BBM-

Iron block- $3,600
Aluminum block- $4,800

:confused:

66gtk 06-19-2016 08:27 PM
I've owned a few Cobras with a 390 FE, 427 FE, 428 FE and a SBF. I can assure you it is much for gratifying to answer the inevitable question (it is always asked), "what's under the hood" with a firm and confident "Ford 427 Sideoiler". Anything else (including a 390 FE) will force you to further explain and make excuses. It doesn't matter how much power it makes, it's more satisfying to truthfully provide the answer they are hoping for.

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 08:40 PM
Exactly !

I know I'd always ask it myself as well, whither in a dream to driving it down the road. So, I have to have the 428 or 427. At least the 428's were in the road cars.

Anyway,...:(

But, I finally got a response from the ebay seller.

"Looks to be sold, deal in the works.
I'll let u know if it falls through.
Thanks Andy"


Guess it was not to be. I'll just say it was a piece of crap. (make me feel better)

I'll look further into the 427 here on CC.
Short block $3,500 OBO. I believe it's on page #1.

Or maybe the BBM block. The block & head package is $4,950.


At least it's brand new and new technology, etc...:cool:

Bernica 06-19-2016 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 (Post 1395348)
Exactly !

I know I'd always ask it myself as well, whither in a dream to driving it down the road. So, I have to have the 428 or 427. At least the 428's were in the road cars.

Anyway,...:(

But, I finally got a response from the ebay seller.

"Looks to be sold, deal in the works.
I'll let u know if it falls through.
Thanks Andy"


Guess it was not to be. I'll just say it was a piece of crap. (make me feel better)

I'll look further into the 427 here on CC.
Short block $3,500 OBO. I believe it's on page #1.

Or maybe the BBM block. The block & head package is $4,950.


At least it's brand new and new technology, etc...:cool:
As I thought, it was going to go quick. Still, stay on him!

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66gtk (Post 1395347)
I've owned a few Cobras with a 390 FE, 427 FE, 428 FE and a SBF. I can assure you it is much for gratifying to answer the inevitable question (it is always asked), "what's under the hood" with a firm and confident "Ford 427 Sideoiler". Anything else (including a 390 FE) will force you to further explain and make excuses. It doesn't matter how much power it makes, it's more satisfying to truthfully provide the answer they are hoping for.

What motor do you like the best & why ?

Actually, give them a ranking !

FUNFER2 06-19-2016 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1395354)
As I thought, it was going to go quick. Still, stay on him!
I'll keep in contact with him. Deals fall through all the time.


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