Side Oiler, Little Disapointing Dyno Numbers ?

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by blykins

I don't understand the point of these "discussions".

You have mentioned in one of the 3-4 other threads that you have started that you're not ready to buy but yet you come across multiple eBay and Craigslist ads and ask what everyone thinks about the price and if it's worth buying.

That was my point, if you're not ready to buy, talking about every engine that comes up for sale is pointless.

I don't see any other builders discussing anything. Lance was on here talking about the 460 based engines but it finally came down to his saying, "Feel free to call the shop when you're ready to do something."

I think you need to narrow down what you want and only you can do that. Club Cobra can't do it for you.

Again Brent, it's about learning from others about these engines, what we need and want, how are the prices to all of us that are learning, and,....just to discuss all of these questions. I have no,...idea why you don't understand ? Can any of us ask you questions about certain engines or only about yours ?

Are we supposed to just buy your engines without any questions, or do you let us have say, 5 then our time is up ?

About Lance, he answered my questions without a problem, then told me to call to discuss the three I'm looking into. Tha's awesome of him to do so.
I'd rather talk over the phone anyway.

If you don't want to answer questions, I'm not making you, don't reply then.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Again Brent, it's about learning from others about these engines, what we need and want, how are the prices to all of us that are learning, and,....just to discuss all of these questions. I have no,...idea why you don't understand ? Can any of us ask you questions about certain engines or only about yours ?

Are we supposed to just buy your engines without any questions, or do you let us have say, 5 then our time is up ?

About Lance, he answered my questions without a problem, then told me to call to discuss the three I'm looking into. Tha's awesome of him to do so.
I'd rather talk over the phone anyway.

If you don't want to answer questions, I'm not making you, don't reply then.

I let people ask as many questions as they want about a particular engine that they're interested in, but when they are looking at 2-3 different engine families, various variations of each, I advise them like I did you....narrow down what you want and then come back. Frankly if I spent time with every person that's in your spot, I'd never get anything done.

And to be frank, you have contacted me twice over the past 5-6 years with the intent of magazine advertisers trying to front the money or donate parts. I don't operate like that, so I'm not interested in your business. I also advised you not to use your first builder and you didn't heed that advice either.

I am essentially answering the questions that I'm answering for the sake of the others reading.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by blykins

I let people ask as many questions as they want about a particular engine that they're interested in, but when they are looking at 2-3 different engine families, various variations of each, I advise them like I did you....narrow down what you want and then come back. Frankly if I spent time with every person that's in your spot, I'd never get anything done.

And to be frank, you have contacted me twice over the past 5-6 years with the intent of magazine advertisers trying to front the money or donate parts. I don't operate like that, so I'm not interested in your business. I also advised you not to use your first builder and you didn't heed that advice either.

I am essentially answering the questions that I'm answering for the sake of the others reading.

I'm not interested in you, period. You really have a bad attitude, and I'm not the only member that feels this way. People have left CC becaus of you and atlest three others that I know of.There are three other engine builders here, that are very repected, so I'll never do business with you or advise others to do so. These other builders have never disrespected people like you.

Do not,....post on my threads again. You're not welcome any longer.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Do not,....post on my threads again. You're not welcome any longer.

You need to post the little emoji that has a tongue sticking out when you write something like that.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You need to post the little emoji that has a tongue sticking out when you write something like that.

He needs to grow up and wear some big boy underpants.

Patrick, you have my permission to post *my* meme....you know the one.

[FUNFER2]

Period....

[blykins]

I have a bad attitude? People have left Club Cobra just because of something I said? Yeah, I'm not buying that.

Drama much?

I have not disrespected anyone. I just hate to see the time of good people go to waste over nothing. I saw you over on Jay's forum asking the same questions and a bunch of good guys who were chasing the ball for you because they don't know that you're a tire kicker.

I shot a text to Barry and to a few others to let them know.

Good luck.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by blykins

I have a bad attitude? People have left Club Cobra just because of something I said? Yeah, I'm not buying that.

Drama much?

I have not disrespected anyone. I just hate to see the time of good people go to waste over nothing. I saw you over on Jay's forum asking the same questions and a bunch of good guys who were chasing the ball for you because they don't know that you're a tire kicker.

I shot a text to Barry and to a few others to let them know.

Good luck.

Brent:

For every FUNFER2 there are many, perhaps hundreds, who agree with you - and probably more likely to actually support you and your business and not just pick your brain and waste your time.

Even if we accept the assertion (and I don't) that a handful have left CC because of you, we're probably better off without them if they're only here to waste time or troll.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by blykins

I have a bad attitude? People have left Club Cobra just because of something I said? Yeah, I'm not buying that.

I left because of Brent, but now I'm back.

Seriously, if "you" (not Brent specifically) don't like the thread, then don't click on it and post on it. Holy cow. Is it that hard to look away or ignore it.

And what the heck is wrong with doing research on various engine families and asking a lot of questions? Sure, some of us know that an all-aluminum FE is the best and only choice for a 427 Cobra, notwithstanding some engine builders not being able to handle machining them not to leak, but there are others who just don't know which is best (all-aluminum FE's), so they ask questions.

When did we become so intolerant? You would think there's a political rally around here.

<Insert GIF of cartoon man dropping his pants and showing his bare butt>

[patrickt]

Hey, I gave you the butt-man emoji, but for some reason you thought it was "too realistic."

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Hey, I gave you the butt-man emoji, but for some reason you thought it was "too realistic."

Yes, I know you gave it to me. I liked it so much I saved it on my computer. I just didn't want to offend anyone here with cartoon butt.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I left because of Brent, but now I'm back.

Seriously, if "you" (not Brent specifically) don't like the thread, then don't click on it and post on it. Holy cow. Is it that hard to look away or ignore it.

And what the heck is wrong with doing research on various engine families and asking a lot of questions? Sure, some of us know that an all-aluminum FE is the best and only choice for a 427 Cobra, notwithstanding some engine builders not being able to handle machining them not to leak, but there are others who just don't know which is best (all-aluminum FE's), so they ask questions.

When did we become so intolerant? You would think there's a political rally around here.

<Insert GIF of cartoon man dropping his pants and showing his bare butt>

I will say this.....if the aftermarket FE block manufacturers don't get their QC under control, I'm gonna skip building FE's altogether, aluminum or cast iron.

Barry just had a brand new block lose oil pressure while priming the oil pump on the dyno and found out that a main oil passage had been drilled through.....so it was just bleeding out internally.

I've had brand new blocks that needed sleeves.

I've had brand new blocks that needed lifter bore sleeves because of porosity.

There are some cast iron blocks floating around where the lifter bores are not finish-drilled all the way through, so there's a step at the bottom.

It's really beginning to not be worth it. When you have a back log of orders and you have to pull one off the dyno to fix something or you don't find something that should have been done until the block is finished and painted, it just pushes everything back.

Not to mention that I can make the same horsepower with a SBF with 50 less cubic inches....

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by blykins

Not to mention that I can make the same horsepower with a SBF with 50 less cubic inches....

For me, if all the engine builders are having trouble with the new FE blocks, iron or alloy, then before I stick a SBF in my Cobra, I'd probably look at the Aussie formula for the LS-series of Chevy engines.

For me, if the decision has been made NOT to go with an FE in a 427 Cobra, then I'd go with the easiest, fastest and most reliable modern FI solution that's readily available. If that's a Chevy or Mopar, then so be it.

But I don't want to hear any complaints, moaning and whining about the parts this or the parts that from either the engine or car builder. I want near-Toyota Camry reliability.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by blykins

I will say this.....if the aftermarket FE block manufacturers don't get their QC under control, I'm gonna skip building FE's altogether, aluminum or cast iron.

Barry just had a brand new block lose oil pressure while priming the oil pump on the dyno and found out that a main oil passage had been drilled through.....so it was just bleeding out internally.

I've had brand new blocks that needed sleeves.

I've had brand new blocks that needed lifter bore sleeves because of porosity.

There are some cast iron blocks floating around where the lifter bores are not finish-drilled all the way through, so there's a step at the bottom.

It's really beginning to not be worth it. When you have a back log of orders and you have to pull one off the dyno to fix something or you don't find something that should have been done until the block is finished and painted, it just pushes everything back.

Not to mention that I can make the same horsepower with a SBF with 50 less cubic inches....

Brent, does that include the higher dollar Shelby FE, and the BBM ?

[olddog]

Originally Posted by blykins

I will say this.....if the aftermarket FE block manufacturers don't get their QC under control, I'm gonna skip building FE's altogether, aluminum or cast iron.

Barry just had a brand new block lose oil pressure while priming the oil pump on the dyno and found out that a main oil passage had been drilled through.....so it was just bleeding out internally.

Dang I just talked to Lance a few hours ago, at the London Car Show. I never thought to ask him about new aftermarket FE blocks. I did ask if finding good original blocks is hard to do. My local supply of dozens of 390 and some 428 FE blocks went, when the scrap metal prices sky rocketed a few years back. The guy cashed in the entire yard and retired. Lance said that original FE blocks are getting harder to find and are costing more.

I'm not sure I trust these 50 yr old blocks, and the new are too costly. Now quality is questionable on top of that. How much longer can the FE dominate the Cobra Pack?