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06-24-2004, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Wanna have fun... Fake E-bay listing
For those who remember we had a guy who had allegedly for sale a 427 alloy side oiler block from SAI.
The block was in N. California or maybe it got shipped to Hawaii, but we couldn't inspect it because it was crated but if you sent the guy money he'd send it to you... Anybody remember that? Search the forum for the whole story.
It's back... I'm going to run the price up... anybody want to join me? The more an item sells for the more the listing costs.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33613
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-24-2004, 10:39 PM
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Mike,
This is an aluminum block and he says he is in Peteluma..Are you sure it is the same guy?
You might be on your way to owning a very expensive Aluminum Block, by Shelby. NOT a Side oiler.
Are you sure it is him?
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06-25-2004, 01:46 AM
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seems kinda odd!! Doesn't have very good feedback
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06-25-2004, 04:04 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Murray,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1560 w/ Ford Racing [RDI/AFR/RPM] Alum. 427CI - 575HP & TKO
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Michael,
Your plan sounds like a waste of energy - and possible money on your part. The block is already bid up to retail price. Why risk any bad feed back from eBay.
This guy doesn't sound like that idiot from NY a few years back - remember him - the guy who always had a 427 block and heads, but couldn't verify a thing - let alone spell worth a damn.
Just my $.02
TL
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06-25-2004, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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It doesn't exist. I know it sounds really stupid but this guy really needs to get taken down. He almost cost a CC member $5000 and a trip from the east coast. This "block" has been for sale several times to several people here. I had hoped we would run it up to $100k and let the guy get stuck for the fees. Either way it's "mine" now. If I can swing it I will get the guy to comit wire fraud by accepting a deposit via Paypal (on my credit card) and I will offer to send him the rest in certified funds. At that point he will likely flake, if he doesn't I will bring the "cash" (and a couple cops) with me to pick up the block. The block won't exist, the guy will either try to rob me and go to jail or act like it was all a mistake, having comitted wire fraud that won't wash and he will be arrested.
OR... He will write me back explaine there has been a mistake and apologize. But... He will still get a bill for a $6k sale from e-bay
I will find the old thread. This guy is a complete fake. You're thinking of Dr. Dee. This guy is someone else.
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-25-2004, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-26-2004, 12:11 AM
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Wow - I just finished reading the 2003 episode.
Here we go again! If he has the 427 in Hawaii again
I can cover the islands that Ernie doesn't.
What is that guy, the Energizer Rabbit? - he just
keeps on going and going.
Go get him!
Flip
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06-26-2004, 07:30 AM
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Michael, If you really want to pull this off, you might want to edit this thread. The guy is certainly smart enough to be reading everything written here. This is not a private forum.
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06-26-2004, 09:47 AM
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The original engine e-bay scam was for a complete engine.
This e-bay listing is for only a block and may be legitimate after all?
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06-26-2004, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1560 w/ Ford Racing [RDI/AFR/RPM] Alum. 427CI - 575HP & TKO
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Michael,
Thanks,
Dr. Dee - how could I forget such an a$$hole?????????????
He almost got me, but after reading your posts, I became really leary! This forum is good for alot of things!
Keep us posted on the status on this deal.
I know there are alot of frauds on ebay - I almost got sucked into one for a Polaris Ranger, the seller wouldn't accept PayPal, only wanted a Western Union wire transfer. As we say here in South Fl. "No way Jose!"
I hope it works out fine for you!
TL
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06-26-2004, 03:51 PM
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What's the deal with Dr Dee??? He lists a lot of FE stuff on several of the forums I visit. It would be great to have the inside info on him. I've contacted him on a few items he was selling but have never purchased anything. Please PM me if you don't want to post on the forum. Thanks and sorry to hijack the thread. G.
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06-26-2004, 04:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Yea Ex, I guess you're right. The auction in 2003 was for a whole engine. $8 or 9k for a $25k Shelby... Either way it's the same chowder head. Just a variation on a theme. The area is too small geographically to have more than one guy doing this.
If I'm wrong I'll make it right. I'm not though the bidding pattern and feedback were bogus. He has 7 positive from the same party and one negative from another scam he attempted. I know the guy who left the 7 feedback. They are in the same town. It also happens the guy who left the feedback is the guy I was suppose to send the money to back in 2003.
Dr. Dee sold at least one member of this forum a reverse rotation industrial engine as either a period top oiler or side oiler. He offered me the standard rotation engine off the same boat and tried to pass it off as a side oiler. Lucky for me a sharp eyed member of the forum recognized the 390 heads that typically came on the boat engines.
It's been 24 hours. I've contacted him twice asking when I can bring him some money....
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-26-2004, 05:19 PM
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I don't know the Dr. Dee fellow. However it DOES seem typical for motors offered for sale by this fellow as a "side oiler" to be some "variant" of the same. Service block, boat motor, etc. Always seems to be something just a little bit "wrong" with the deal, just from what I've noted. No personal dealing with the man at all.
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06-26-2004, 07:00 PM
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The ad didn't list a CSX # for the block, why not get the guy to disclose the #, then the mystery could be solved with a call to SAI.
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06-26-2004, 09:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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I asked for one 5 days ago... It doesn't exist.
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-27-2004, 06:45 AM
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Thanks for the "Dr" info. G.
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06-27-2004, 06:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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This guys name is william a. bradley aka bill bradley of Petaluma California two of his e-bay alias are onehot427 and cdrgstdy, no doubt there are others. If you think you have information regarding other scams he has been involved in please let us know.
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-28-2004, 06:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Hmmm... It's Monday night the auction ended 3 days ago and not a word from our mighty 427 seller despite 3 e-mails and a phone call to him. Our hero's name is William A. Bradley aka Bill Bradley, husband of Linda. He uses three screen names on e-bay "onehot427" and "cdrgstdy" and "theshopatreno" there are likely others.
Buyer beware, I'm just sorry we didn't run it up over $100k. and stick him with a $500 e-bay bill. I know this exercise was pointless but it wasn't really. It's too expensive to build a Ford as it is. We don't need $hitheads making it more so.
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-29-2004, 06:02 AM
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This has got to be rich.
Please keep us posted.
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06-29-2004, 11:52 AM
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He will probably disappear for a bit then try again.
All it takes is one biter every now and then to
make it worth his time.
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