Keith Craft Inc.- We service what we sell!!! Check out our Cobra engines!!! We build high performance racing engines and components for the fast pace strip racing industry as well as daily drivers who want to be FIRST!!!

FE Forums sponsored by Keith Craft Inc.


Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > FE TALK

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
February 2026
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-30-2007, 08:13 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 19
Not Ranked     
Default aluminum blocks

Thanks for your input. As a couple of you have pointed out, the laws of physics would imply that the tapets are loose when cold and tighten up (less clearance) when at operating temperature. I believe this is why some put in hydraulic lifters instead of using solid. They take up the cold 'slack'. Bad thing with hydraulics though, they will float long before solids! There is quite a valve 'slap' when cold with solids in an aluminum block. HP is being lost and wear is introduced over time.

I read that this is why HM (Holman Moody) prefers cast blocks. Their cast blocks (FORD Blueprinted) should be in production in the fall.

Last edited by PJ10; 05-30-2007 at 08:20 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-30-2007, 09:05 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 1,009
Not Ranked     
Default Clearance

It's the other way around, the block grows more than the push rods therefore valve lash increases with temperature IE the head moves away from the crank as the deck goes up from thermal expansion. The push rods are steel and their thermal rate of expansion is much lower so they stay about the same length and clearance between the rocker and push rod increases.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-31-2007, 05:11 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 34
Not Ranked     
Default

So if you want an alloy block, your best bet is to get a set of the new alloy SOHC heads and do away with pushrods.

You would want a chain tensioner (or belt drive).

Problems solved.

Aluminum pushrods? What diameter would be required to match the stiffness of steel? If no overall difference in weight due to increased diameters, why not?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 10:53 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA, PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Look-a-like cobra POS
Posts: 955
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PJ10 View Post
Thanks for your input. As a couple of you have pointed out, the laws of physics would imply that the tapets are loose when cold and tighten up (less clearance) when at operating temperature. I believe this is why some put in hydraulic lifters instead of using solid. They take up the cold 'slack'. Bad thing with hydraulics though, they will float long before solids! There is quite a valve 'slap' when cold with solids in an aluminum block. HP is being lost and wear is introduced over time.

I read that this is why HM (Holman Moody) prefers cast blocks. Their cast blocks (FORD Blueprinted) should be in production in the fall.

PJ10,

Funny thing, I was at Daytona International last weekend for the historic races and talked with a guy who is associated with Hollman Moody. He had a GT40 MKII there. He states the Shelby alum. block uses "inferior aluminum" in its casting process. He states this leads to uneven expansion of block and heads causing gasket failure.
I blew a gasket last year after about 1800 miles and 3 years. According to Keith Craft this was do to defective Fel-Pro gaskets. He sent me new ones and its holding up good so far. Currently has 2200 miles -w- around 1 1/2 hours agressive open track time.


Best, Bret.
__________________
B. Ewing
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy