ignition grief

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Points are antiquated pieces of junk and have no business being in a modern car or a car someone is trying to get the most out of.
I don't like wasting my time tuning the car only to have the tune go out the window because the dwell is like a yo-yo because of point bounce.

Let’s see, where to start with this; #1 most of us aren’t tuning on the razor’s edge so the most out of it thing is just silly for most of us. #2 Last I looked your car has an FE; what are you spinning that puppy too in order to get point bounce? I’m quite sure that I’ve had my Boss302 wound tighter that that 427 will ever wind and I’ve done it with points and no problems. #3 When using the MSD box the points only act as a trigger so dwell is not a factor.

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Here's my MSD failures over the past 12 years:
Pick-up module.A piece of crap got underneath and when the screws were tightened,it acted as a fulcrum and cracked the magnet.It eventually failed.(that's story all by itself)Replaced and no more issues.

And it still wouldn’t have happened if it had had a good set of points.

Originally Posted by ERA649

I bought my third MSD magnetic pick up - first one lasted 4500 miles, second one 1000 miles, third one ?? . I never saw gapping instructions with the installation material. What is the the recommended gap?

And a set of points in place of the magnetic pick up would render that moot.

Originally Posted by Rick Parker

lovehamer:
The rubbing block still wears and alters the time it opens the points and thus the firing of the box. That's one of the big issues with points, not just the contact wear.

Come on man, a BIG point? How long does it take for a rubbing block to wear to the point where it makes an appreciable difference in timing? ERA649 has gone through 3 pick ups in 5500 miles, one set of points triggering an MSD wouldn’t have to be adjusted for another 10 miles and then they wouldn’t need to be replaced. While I consider Bill’s “Points are antiquated pieces of junk and have no business being in a modern car or a car someone is trying to get the most out of.” rant to be just that, a rant with no basis in reality. If one is turning 8k RPM regularly, or they are actually in money type competition, then I understand wanting something more precise than points. However, I consider this whole thread to be an indictment of the “ooh, ooh, I want something new and shiny regardless of how good it works” mentality.

Steve