Just when you think you've got your FE poop in a group..

[undy]

Originally Posted by My427stang

Undy, I think you live too close to the ocean......that's sea water man

If you would have joined the AF years ago, you'd be in some beautiful place like Nebraska, North Dakota, you get the idea, then that **** would have frozen like Mudslide shots.

Good luck, sounds like a typical Dove piece. Maybe put it on the wall for show and find an original or a regular med riser.

Yea, too close to the ocean, I got barnacles in my stern tube and the fan tail's drooping a little more these days..

Actually a retired USAF Chief Master Sergeant w/32 years.. Hoo-rah, go Red Horse.. Lead, follow or get the he!! out of the way.

I like the tunnel wedge too well to trash it yet. The Blue Blunder stuff just doesn't have the pizzazz of the Tunnel Wedge. Beside's after all the machining and porting it works right well with Keith's stage II heads. I had the faces cut for a perfect height and port match when torqued. Barry's hooking me up on the Dove disaster anyway. He said he's got a welder that can weld tin foil together, in high winds, with rain, while flagellating profusely.. now there' a visual..

[RICK LAKE]

undy Have you had your coffee today yet?? Sounds like you need a HUG. Rick I tell the same story 2-3 times, I must be a dope.

[undy]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

undy Have you had your coffee today yet?? Sounds like you need a HUG. Rick I tell the same story 2-3 times, I must be a dope.

Actually, I'm caffeine hydrating right now, sucking down my second cup'o jo.. also enjoying a freshly toasted blue berry bagel with just the right amount cream cheese.. yum, yum..

No hugs, just send $$. Anyway, I already have someone who hugs me and talks too much.

Barry will have the intake tomorrow. I'll know more after the pressure test.

oops... just made it to the pineapple upside down cake that a co-worker brought in... burp.. x-cuse me..

Dave

[Jerry Clayton]

Calbullet--
In 1992, GM went to Mobil one in the LT engines in the Corvette--It ran cooler by enough that they were able to remove the oil coolers from the cars----

In the Cobras out there being street driven with hugh oil pans, external filters and coolers, the oil is not getting to the temps it needs to be(above the boiling temp of H2O) and combined with big cams( poor vacume) too large carbs(poor vacume) poor or no PCV or crankcase venting, finned valve covers (cooling) the engine is acting like a still, making liquid, and it is condensing on the valve covers and poluting the oil.

There may be leaks causing some of the problem, but a leak is a leak, and poor crank case venting along with not enough oil temp will have condensation and milk shakes.

If you don't believe it, OK, if you don't have the problem fine, but I have seen this hundreds of times on these type vehicles---and they all share the same symphons and react the same to proper corrective actions---

UNDY---- keep us advised of the manifold leak---we just recently had an Edelbrock that had an external seepage by the thermostat/bypass hose area.

Jerry

[Eljaro]

I had to throw away a Blue Thunder intake manifold because it had a pore inside one of the pushrod holes and was seeping water inside the engine.
I discovered it with the valve cover off and the engine running.
When trying to weld a tube inside the hole the water came out somewhere else, and if I soldered that pore shut the water found some other way out into the engine.
If you have a Dove you may have an aluminum casting defect like I had.

[Calbullet]

[quote=Jerry Clayton;952711]

If you don't believe it, OK, if you don't have the problem fine, but I have seen this hundreds of times on these type vehicles---and they all share the same symphons and react the same to proper corrective actions---


Jerry, I don't use Mobil One, I use Kendall oil. Just asked the question about your oil statement

Mel

[Jerry Clayton]

Kendall would be one of the oils I would recommend----from a OIL company vs a gasoline company---

Each and every varible plays a signifiant role in the big picture---

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

----from a OIL company vs a gasoline company---

Explain this statement please.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

Kendall would be one of the oils I would recommend----from a OIL company vs a gasoline company---

Kendall was owned by Sunoco, sold to Tosco, and is now under Conocophillips. It is not the Kendall that you knew as young mechanic. That oil is now Brad Penn. (I know, that's what you were thinking.)

[Jerry Clayton]

Oil companies---Valvoline, Pennz,Kendall,Quater State,etc

Gasoline companies--Shell, Amoco, Texaco, etc

separated by where there main interests were (years ago)

[elmariachi]

Shell drills, refines and markets and Texaco is now Chevron. Conoco owns Kendall and that's what's in the can. What used to be in a Kendall can is now in a Brad Penn can. I'd say anyone trying to decide on which oil to use should not rely on the name brand.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

Shell drills, refines and markets and Texaco is now Chevron. Conoco owns Kendall and that's what's in the can. What used to be in a Kendall can is now in a Brad Penn can. I'd say anyone trying to decide on which oil to use should not rely on the name brand.

I think Jerry was just geezing on us. He probably wishes he hadn't written it.

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I think Jerry was just geezing on us. He probably wishes he had written it.

One thing's for sure, you can't trust that what used to be in a can in 1970 is what's in the can now. Sorta like seeing the Shell truck pumping gas into the tank at a Chevron station, that just changed it's signs from Texaco.

[My427stang]

Originally Posted by undy

Yea, too close to the ocean, I got barnacles in my stern tube and the fan tail's drooping a little more these days..

Actually a retired USAF Chief Master Sergeant w/32 years.. Hoo-rah, go Red Horse.. Lead, follow or get the he!! out of the way.

I like the tunnel wedge too well to trash it yet. The Blue Blunder stuff just doesn't have the pizzazz of the Tunnel Wedge. Beside's after all the machining and porting it works right well with Keith's stage II heads. I had the faces cut for a perfect height and port match when torqued. Barry's hooking me up on the Dove disaster anyway. He said he's got a welder that can weld tin foil together, in high winds, with rain, while flagellating profusely.. now there' a visual..

LOL, I didnt realize you were real Chief, I guess I figured by location that you were a USN Chief of some sort, seems like they all use the term if they hang around long enough

I left Hampton Roads last year and got a year of skoolin in DC, finishing up this month, and now back to Mother Offutt. I built the Mustang there and did 6 enjoyable years, raised a family there, but man it sounds colder now than I remember it

[undy]

Originally Posted by My427stang

LOL, I didnt realize you were real Chief, I guess I figured by location that you were a USN Chief of some sort, seems like they all use the term if they hang around long enough

I left Hampton Roads last year and got a year of skoolin in DC, finishing up this month, and now back to Mother Offutt. I built the Mustang there and did 6 enjoyable years, raised a family there, but man it sounds colder now than I remember it

I spent the first 12 years of my military career riding those big gray things for Uncle Sam's Navy. I saw the light and never looked back.. To the Horse!

How long do you have in?

BTW .... Barry pressure tested the intake and it was leaking where I suspected. I could kick myself, having seen the bad/porous spot and had second thoughts before I installed it the first time.. I got in a rush.. He had his super-duper welder literally rebuild the whole corner of the intake with new weld. An over night pressure test showed zero leaks. After that he touched up the intake faces on the Bridgeport, clearanced all the pushrod holes and did a few "special request" items. It's due here tomorrow. It'll be this coming weekend's project.

Dave

[My427stang]

Awesome, I am at the 15 yr point come spring.

Can't wait to hear how it works out, I expect it'll be right now

[undy]

I'll be taking my first shake-down cruise today.. The motor is back together, all conditions are normal and I'm darn well ready to let her rip.

First off, I can't give enough kudos to Barry at Survival for stepping up to the plate and helping me out. He has access to one of the best tig welders in the Detroit area. They completely rebuilt the front driver's side of the intake, in the pushrod hole/water jacket area. Barry had his crew do a bunch of other machine work too, while he had it. After all the welding, machining and series of pressure checks the intake's now rock solid, unable for one to tell it's ever been repaired. I had to threaten an a$$ whoopin' to get Barry to accept money for all the work he and his people did. Now that's customer service!

The intake went on the engine with zero leaks and freshly clearanced pushrod holes. I ran her for about 30 minutes before I dumped the first batch of oil and filter. I adjusted the fan thermostat a little warmer to "cook off' any remaining moisture that might be in the engine and to get some good solvent action by the current oil. There were no coolant or oil leaks and the oil pressure is where it's always been since the engine was new. Ya gotta luv an accusump for pre-lubes during fire ups. I dumped that 11 quarts of oil (which was pretty clean) and installed the new K&N oil filter and 11 fresh quarts of Rotella. As I said, I'll be taking her out this afternoon for the acid test. It'll also be the maiden voyage for the new pin-drive Vintage wheels. Let the fun continue ...

Dave

[Great Asp]

Dave,

Good luck on your first cruise!

You have the right attitude for a problem like this, let's just hope you keep the attitude and have less problems

E