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Old 09-06-2009, 07:50 PM
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Default Suppliers for dry sump?

On my stang, then engine sits lower than stock (TCP Motor mounts), which is great for handling, and great for air cleaner clearance but the cobra tee pan sits very low. Too low to add an aftermarket rack and pinion steering system.

I know a lot of cobras use a dry sump system. Who are good suppliers to speak to about pans etc?
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Check www.daileyengineering.com. Bill has a pan for the FE motor. The depth of the pan is less than 2 inches.

Check my gallery and you will see pics of my pan both on and off the car. It's a billet piece and his pump will extract all the pressure from your motor...no need for breathers.

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Default Avivad oiling system

67FEfastback Avivad sells a complete setup for and FE motor. Brackets,spacers, pulleys, tanks, and belts. The pumps are trick too if you want to run a P/S pump behind the oil pump. Dove sells an drysump with internal oil pump. You will need to find a place in the r/f corner under the hood for this setup. I am not a fan of runnng 10-14' or hose to the trunk for the supply tank. Rick L. Ps. Look at Peterson pumps also.
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Check www.daileyengineering.com. Bill has a pan for the FE motor. The depth of the pan is less than 2 inches.

Check my gallery and you will see pics of my pan both on and off the car. It's a billet piece and his pump will extract all the pressure from your motor...no need for breathers.
So I take it that this means you're not running the Dove dry sump any longer?

Why?
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Yep, got to be Aviaid if it's for an FE. http://www.aviaid.com/
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Phone John @ Aviaid 818 998 8991,
Just bought a complete system from him for my 427 FE.
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Thanks guys for the links and information
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Phone John @ Aviaid 818 998 8991,
Just bought a complete system from him for my 427 FE.
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If I may ask the question, then is $3,000 about right for all the parts? What type of system did you purchase. I would love to hear some details.

I've thought about dry sumping way back when, but then the initial cost and maintenance steer me back to doing nothing.
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On my stang, then engine sits lower than stock (TCP Motor mounts), which is great for handling, and great for air cleaner clearance but the cobra tee pan sits very low. Too low to add an aftermarket rack and pinion steering system.

I know a lot of cobras use a dry sump system. Who are good suppliers to speak to about pans etc?
You cannot beat a Dailey, I have one and it pulls 13" of vacuum! The Aviad stuff is period correct but nowhere as good functionally. I have #16 lines on both feed and return and (the best part) my FE does not leak when the engine is running. When stopped it is like an old Harley though, since there is no vacuum. I am also using a Stephs pan and Steph's 16 qt tank, I do not know about the Dailey pan but the pictures look good.
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Anthony,

The Dove pan was a 2-piece pan and I could not stop it from leaking. Other than leaking a little...it worked fine.

No leaks...none...with the Dailey pan.
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Question Do you still have the dove???

SoTxButler Russ do you still have the Dove setup?? There are no gaskets between the pump and oil pan? Have seen a couple of pictures and hard to tell what is going on. If the pump a spur gear or rotorgear setup. How do you adjust the belt for this? Any good pictures would be nice. Rick L. Ps if it's to machined aluminum surfaces, I can seal them.
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Default Sealing engine with DS

Does everyone here with DS seal up the engine to maximize vacuum, ie; plug up vents like on the oil breather cap, etc? I believe you're typically supposed to have a small dia vent line from the crankcase running to the DS tank, but otherwise seal it up. My factory race engine has the old Shelby American dry sump setup, however, which I doubt has anywhere near the suction power of modern setups, so have been vacillating on how necessary it is to make sure the crankcase is sealed......with very low vacuum it may be better to vent?
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Does everyone here with DS seal up the engine to maximize vacuum, ie; plug up vents like on the oil breather cap, etc? I believe you're typically supposed to have a small dia vent line from the crankcase running to the DS tank, but otherwise seal it up. My factory race engine has the old Shelby American dry sump setup, however, which I doubt has anywhere near the suction power of modern setups, so have been vacillating on how necessary it is to make sure the crankcase is sealed......with very low vacuum it may be better to vent?
No, I never ran a sealed motor that saw double duty in a track/street application, but do run all the race-only motors sealed. The main reason we ran the race stuff sealed was for the power advantage of the low tension/friction ring packages and gas-ported pistons. The gas ported stuff runs very thin, low friction rings that only seals on the combustion stroke. On the other three strokes the ring pack is doing very little and relys on DS vacuum to control oil consumption. We also run rods with EDM holes to oil the wristpins, special crank seals for vacuum, one-way pop-off valve, and silicone every gasket surface... among other things. On an all-out motor for a racing application there is a definite benefit, but I do not run that set up on the street... I vent.
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