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| patrickt |
10-07-2009 12:09 PM |
You can see here on my motor mount that I use the "old style" pre-1965 two bolt type. You can see the two bolts that go to the block and the big one bolt that goes to the frame piece. If you just loosen these up, without taking them out, you'll get a good inch, maybe a bit more. To go much above that though you're going to have to remove them.
http://208.255.159.239/motormount001.jpg |
| elmariachi |
10-07-2009 12:14 PM |
Patrick, is your mount slotted above the main bolt?
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| patrickt |
10-07-2009 12:15 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
(Post 991170)
Patrick, is your mount slotted above the main bolt?
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Yes it is. |
| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 12:20 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
(Post 990819)
Good. Check the measurement first and if needed call Thor at Canton for pick up length alteration or Mickmate.
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I called Canton and their engineer told me that I should still be fine after adding the winage tray. They have never had a problem and only make the one oil pick up length because of that. He did say I could go to 1/2 inch clearance if necessary, do you agree with that?
I will be sure to measure it when I am all ready to go with the windage tray. |
| elmariachi |
10-07-2009 12:20 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 991171)
Yes it is.
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I have no idea if they are fully slotted on a CSX but I know that in my case it is far easier to access and loosen the frame bolt as opposed to the engine mount bolts, and the slots could give him more room to raise it up. Just a thought... |
| patrickt |
10-07-2009 12:20 PM |
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| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 12:24 PM |
OK, good advice on the motor mounts. I will go there if I have to for clearance to fix the pan bolt.
And to think I asked at the start of this thread (6 pages ago) how much of a PITA it would be to change the pan gasket. I'd rather do that 10 times than do all this again. Everything is relative.....
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| elmariachi |
10-07-2009 12:27 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
(Post 991179)
And to think I asked at the start of this thread (6 pages ago) how much of a PITA it would be to change the pan gasket. I'd rather do that 10 times than do all this again. Everything is relative.....
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In the end the real PITA will have been babysitting this thread, meeting our demands for pics, and putting up with our *&^%. :LOL: |
| patrickt |
10-07-2009 12:27 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
(Post 991173)
I He did say I could go to 1/2 inch clearance if necessary, do you agree with that?
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He probably knows what he's talking about. And you've got the 8qt. job with the little trap doors and stuff, right? I'd bet he's probably right, but it wouldn't hurt to just do a quick half-a$$ measuring job while you have the pan off and confirm that you don't have, say, 3 inches of clearance.:eek: |
| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 12:32 PM |
Actually I was thinking of sending out scotch to those that helped me. Even the moral support has been great. I think Pat and Chas have been waking up in the AM and thinking, gee, I wonder how Doug's pan bolt is doing today.....ok, maybe not.
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| elmariachi |
10-07-2009 12:33 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
(Post 991185)
Actually I was thinking of sending out scotch to those that helped me.
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Scotch? Hell, for Scotch I'll come lay on my back under your car and you can type on Club Cobra. :LOL::LOL: |
| patrickt |
10-07-2009 12:34 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
(Post 991185)
I think Pat and Chas have been waking up in the AM and thinking, gee, I wonder how Doug's pan bolt is doing today.....ok, maybe not.
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Yep, when I head in to the bathroom in the middle of the night and look down while taking a wizz I definitely think of your car.:p |
| elmariachi |
10-07-2009 12:36 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 991188)
Yep, when I head in to the bathroom in the middle of the night and look down while taking a wizz I definitely think of your car.:p
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Baaaahaahaaahaaaaa. Doug, get this fixed quick before we get your thread shut down. :JEKYLHYDE |
| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 12:36 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 991183)
He probably knows what he's talking about. And you've got the 8qt. job with the little trap doors and stuff, right? I'd bet he's probably right, but it wouldn't hurt to just do a quick half-a$$ measuring job while you have the pan off and confirm that you don't have, say, 3 inches of clearance.:eek:
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My pan is 7qt for the pan, 8qt for the system (although prob more than that with the oil left in the oil cooler and lines, not sure how much that takes up). I can put a ruler across the pickup and measure the distance from the ruler to the block. The pan is 6 inches deep so I just need to add the windage tray and gasket thinkness to that. Should give me a reasonable idea of how close I am. |
| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 12:38 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
(Post 991187)
Scotch? Hell, for Scotch I'll come lay on my back under your car and you can type on Club Cobra. :LOL::LOL:
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I'd have to quit work to keep up with Pat's posting volume..... |
| ERA Chas |
10-07-2009 01:18 PM |
Sorry been away for a while but you've been in good hands with Pat and Jim's support.
Actually no dreaming-been very happy it ain't me on my back (again) upside down.:LOL:
I'm not nuts about 1/2" but any more and I'd be up nights...%/ If more, you could have Nick cut you a shim to the Melling bolt pattern.
The real PIA for you is that Shelbys have the crossmember that ERA's do not. Wide open under our pans. Try not to lift the motor. On top of the extra work and contact points the boys mentioned you don't wanna drill/bash/push against a dangling 600 pounds of crap. Unless you shim the space on the mounts temporarily.
A few sips of Macallan 21 yr old would be nice...Then NONE of us would care about oil leaks**)
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| dcdoug |
10-07-2009 01:34 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
(Post 991210)
The real PIA for you is that Shelbys have the crossmember that ERA's do not.
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You got that right. BIG PITA. |
| patrickt |
10-07-2009 01:41 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
(Post 991223)
You got that right. BIG PITA.
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Shoulda bought an ERA....;) |
| ZOERA-SC7XX |
10-07-2009 07:08 PM |
Here's my take. I don't think the one broken bolt is causing your leak. As I wrote the other day, I have the same Canton pan and it leaked down the side rails/flanges at rpm above 2000 or so. The flanges were not straight. After putting a straight edge (square) to it I saw the non-flat condition of the pan. The pan came like this from the factory. Just do some tweaking and hammer the holes down so the straight edge shows no more than .020 gap. Plug up the hole from the broken bolt with silicone. I've had broken pan bolts before without leakage. Pulling the engine for one broken bolt shouldn't be necessary.
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| patrickt |
10-07-2009 07:14 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX
(Post 991324)
Plug up the hole from the broken bolt with silicone. I've had broken pan bolts before without leakage.
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Doug won't do that.:LOL: But you darn well might be 100% correct.%/ |
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