Stacked EFI- advise/thoughts and poll.

[FUNFER2]

I'm looking into stacked EFI company's & would appreciate any & all advise & opinions. I have a lone Star with a FE and will have to measure the height for hood clearance. Although, being electronic, I should be able to cut the stacks to fit and not hurt performance ?

Anyone with stacked EFI on a FE motor, please include details, cost & photo's. And why you bought the brand you have.

Very Cool Parts
MOMAR
TWM
Hilborn
and Dynatek Racing are some I'm looking at.

Cost is also a factor.

Thanks,
Kevin

[Kramer]

Kevin,

A similar topic was just discussed the other day...here is the link.

EFI... that looks like Webers?

You can see pics of my TWM set up in my gallery. I researched all systems for a long time before going to with the TWM set up..it was more than just looks as I had to worry about altitude changes as well.

Kramer.

[double ugly]

Give Bob a call. He was one of the pioneers of stack injection. Great guy.

http://www.imagineinjection.com/

[thorconstr]

I am a rep for TWM, drop me a line at thormotorsports1@msn.com I can give you some great prices and save you some money on a complete setup, including a ecu. I've had a setup on my 427 for a few years and love it.

[COBRAMAN 484]

Is Momar still in business . I tried looking at his website last week and it was not there. I tried again this morning and got a web site that says,


Note: Acme Technologies, Inc. has assumed the Momar inventory and is building and selling the products with the same attention to detail and professionalism as always.

[lamaluv]

I would second double ugly's recommendation about contacting Bob at Imagineinjection. I have his set up on my 428FE and am very happy with it.

Dick

[FUNFER2]

Dick- Very nice set up. It looks fairly low, lower than the distributor and the radiator overflow? How tall is it from the bottom of the manifold to the top of the filters ?
I like the looks of the old school stacks than the billet but, yours is very nice. Please email me.

double ugly- thank you !

thorconstr- I'll email you for details & cost. Thanks Al

Kramer- thanks for the other post & nice injection.

[Dennis Mosley]

Here is a picture of my VCP set up on my FE.



I'm using a Tec3r ecu running without a distributor. Took me a while to tune it since I'd never played with efi before but it's done and alot of fun.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[xlr8or]

Also consider the ECU options they have available. Some are more user friendly than others.

[RodKnock]

Is it beneficial to run without a distributor? Does it cost more or less? Is $10,000 "all in" (parts, labor, tuning, etc.) about right for these setups?

[dynoroom]

Here are a couple I've done using TWM throttle bodies. We're also a dealer for severial electronic systems. FAST, Accel DFI, AEM, & Motec to name a few.










I would say yes, around 8 to 10K. You need the intake manifold, throttle bodies, injectors, fuel system, ECU, sensors, harness, then dyno time and tunning.
But it sure look good.

[rick50]

Didn't you build Carroll Shelbys 1300 HP motor with TWM Induction and twin turbos?

Originally Posted by dynoroom

Here are a couple I've done using TWM throttle bodies. We're also a dealer for severial electronic systems. FAST, Accel DFI, AEM, & Motec to name a few.










I would say yes, around 8 to 10K. You need the intake manifold, throttle bodies, injectors, fuel system, ECU, sensors, harness, then dyno time and tunning.
But it sure look good.

[fkemmerer]

Kevin,

Your are correct, my cobra is not yet complete. The car is about to go back to ERA to complete assembly and then will come to me as a roller. We decided to polish all of the visible aluminum panels on the car so ERA left them off so that we would not get paint overspray on the polished parts.

- Fred

[FUNFER2]

Fred- please email me when you have time.
Kevin

[Mike.S]

Sir; I really like the looks and fit of your Air cleaner Assy, May I ask as to who makes it?, Thank you...Mike

[RodKnock]

Will most if not all systems adapt to the whatever FE setup that someone might have and will some or all of the setups fit under the hood? I have a Kirkham.

[SoTxButler]

I am having Very Cool Parts install the stack system in February. With an Electromotive TEC-GT electronic system, air cleaners, high capacity fuel pump, distributorless coil packs, installation, polishing and dyno tuning, there is very little change left from $10,000. Will report after all is done. Just to be clear...this is a turn-key installation. Did price TWM, for the same work, the guess was $10,000.

[FUNFER2]

Wow, 10k !
I had no idea. I was figuring apx. $6570. Without the dyno ect.
That's about what I have in my entire engine.

[fkemmerer]

Keith Craft is a pretty good source for an EFI setup if you are doing an engine from scratch. I would recommend the TWM setup with a FAST computer. You might also look at FAST's new electronnic traction control option. I'm going to try this on my ERA. Also, FAST has just started offering a dual-sync distributor for the FE engines. This allows individual cyclinder correction of fuel and timing to get the best possible tune. Attached are a few pics of the engine the Keith Craft did for me. More pics of the engine and the rest of the project can be found in my gallery.

- Fred

[fkemmerer]

Originally Posted by fkemmerer

Keith Craft is a pretty good source for an EFI setup if you are doing an engine from scratch. I would recommend the TWM setup with a FAST computer. You might also look at FAST's new electronnic traction control option. I'm going to try this on my ERA. Also, FAST has just started offering a dual-sync distributor for the FE engines. This allows individual cyclinder correction of fuel and timing to get the best possible tune. Attached are a few pics of the engine the Keith Craft did for me. More pics of the engine and the rest of the project can be found in my gallery.

- Fred

I've gotten some interest from several folks on this forum on the Electronnic traction Control setup that I'm installing on my ERA Cobra so I thought I'd post an update. The ETC system is based on the latest version of the FAST XFI ECU. The system uses a driveshaft speed sensor (picturedbelow) to allow the EFI computer to detect when the rear wheels begin to speed. When this happens, the ECU retards the ignition timing which reduces the motor's torque output and controls the spin.



The driveshaft sensor is a custom made part. ERA, a local machinst, and I collaborated to modifity a standard FAST driveshaft sensor to create the custom setup for my ERA cobra. I'm anxious to see how this setup will perform.