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GT40 Talk
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| NewYorkGuy |
11-01-2015 07:32 AM |
Gas Monkey Garage repairs a Ford GT
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGe_tJbQOCk[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzL6txF7oMo[/ame]
Part 2, Richard sells the "Iron Man" Cobra to a Comic Book museum for $75K
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| Mark IV |
11-01-2015 09:24 AM |
I saw the F40 they "fixed" at Barrett-Jackson. I was not impressed to say it politely. I an sure they can barn up the GT just as well.
Easy to make money when the producers are footing the bill for a TV show. A lot harder in the real world.
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| twobjshelbys |
11-01-2015 09:55 AM |
If you watched the entire show you will hear them say the "purists" will disagree with what they did. Frankly I'm glad they did it. This was a "storied" car and while the seller said it had a clear title, it was probably not an insurance claim since the frame damage clearly would have been caught by an adjuster and made it salvage. That said, unlike the F40, this car will forever carry with it the alert that "something made it be changed into this" and noone will ever think they have anything other than what it is - a rebuilt wreck.
The F40 was bought at Barrett Jackson by Reggie Jackson (who was not present, either internet or phone bidding) and he sold it at the next auction.
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| ct clint |
11-01-2015 10:01 AM |
You need to remember fixing car's in the real world isn't that exciting. How many novas and mustangs do u want to see. It was cool to see it all apart. Just imagine paying good money for it to find out she was munched. I am guessing it had a good title so u only find out when it comes apart. It's nice to see a guy still playing with cars and getting kids intrested in the hobby.
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| twobjshelbys |
11-01-2015 10:06 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ct clint
(Post 1369811)
You need to remember fixing car's in the real world isn't that exciting. How many novas and mustangs do u want to see. It was cool to see it all apart. Just imagine paying good money for it to find out she was munched. I am guessing it had a good title so u only find out when it comes apart. It's nice to see a guy still playing with cars and getting kids intrested in the hobby.
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A Ford GT with a Air Bag suspension is going to raise some eyebrows. The only one other modified GTs not done on wrecked cars were the GTX series and that awful Gaudin Ford thing that I think they have sold none of.
LIke Cobras, the GT buyer base is pretty well informed and will get a PPI. This car won't ride under the radar screen. |
| mptech |
11-01-2015 02:53 PM |
I think the value of this car will be artificially inflated by it's TV / Celebrity status. This car will be sold or auctioned as "Featured on Gas Monkey Garage".
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| rodneym |
11-01-2015 03:28 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
(Post 1369809)
The F40 was bought at Barrett Jackson by Reggie Jackson...
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Mr. October has a penchant for acquiring cars of a somewhat impure origin. %/ |
| jumpman420 |
11-01-2015 08:05 PM |
Personally salvage does not bother me at all. I know most of you wouldnt touch it with a stick, but for the younger generation like me, it makes nicer vehicles affordable to me that I may not be able to afford. My insurance company insures it as a regular vehicle as well, unless totalled....again, then there is a fine line of replacement cost.
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| twobjshelbys |
11-01-2015 08:16 PM |
In this discussion salvage is more about performance and safety than beauty. I would not want to be on the track in that car nor would I want it on the track with mine. Sure if you want to take it to car shows.
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I don't get the negativity...
I may be missing something but I wonder how many real track cars have undergone extensive damage repairs or restoration without anyone being concerned about sharing a track with them. I thought your initial gripe with this car was the issue that it could be sold on with no note on the title indicating it was damaged; or maybe the fact that it had some custom modifications. How would it be any different if the owner at the time of the accident decided to keep it, fix it and put it back on the road? Do you believe the damage was so extensive that it would be impossible to repair to original specs? Should the car have been discarded and sent to the crusher instead of being repaired? :confused:
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| keezling |
11-02-2015 09:45 AM |
No different than buying any other used car, except the price. The little womans mini van may have been thru a crash, flood or a mobile meth lab for that matter. It's always buyer beware.
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| FarRider |
11-02-2015 10:26 AM |
What do Gt owners think about this one?
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| twobjshelbys |
11-02-2015 10:53 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
(Post 1369923)
I may be missing something but I wonder how many real track cars have undergone extensive damage repairs or restoration without anyone being concerned about sharing a track with them. I thought your initial gripe with this car was the issue that it could be sold on with no note on the title indicating it was damaged; or maybe the fact that it had some custom modifications. How would it be any different if the owner at the time of the accident decided to keep it, fix it and put it back on the road? Do you believe the damage was so extensive that it would be impossible to repair to original specs? Should the car have been discarded and sent to the crusher instead of being repaired? :confused:
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I have no gripe on this car. I actually find it an interesting "conversion" and because of that, the history of it can never be buried. I thought it looked "wicked" but that's just because all black no stripe cars look "wicked". It's probably fine for street use.
The frame should have been replaced not welded.
By the way, you'd be surprised how many cars have been repaired with no history on carfax. That is the reason every GT purchase should get a PPI.
Race cars are immune from the stigma of a repair. Original Cobras included. That beautiful Jag original that got wrecked at the vintage race a few weeks ago will be repaired too with no stigma attached. But most modern era cars that have a carfax blemish (GTs included) will trade for less than an unrepaired car. Salvage cars are penalized even more That's just the way it is.
I keep waiting for the video of them bouncing the front wheels off the ground. The diffusers probably wouldn't survive though. |
| Bernica |
11-02-2015 02:57 PM |
I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!:eek:
My gut kept telling me that the car needed to be at a different place that was familiar with repairing Ford GT's. I'm sure are plenty because they get wrecked all the time.
But...I guess it makes for good TV to the masses.;)
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| twobjshelbys |
11-02-2015 04:09 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
(Post 1369996)
I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!:eek:
My gut kept telling me that the car needed to be at a different place that was familiar with repairing Ford GT's. I'm sure are plenty because they get wrecked all the time.
But...I guess it makes for good TV to the masses.;)
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The guy that sold the car to the Monkeys knows how to repair them. Hinted that there might be some other issues. All the Monkeys cared about was clear title. |
| Armrer |
11-02-2015 05:11 PM |
[quote=Bernica;1369996]I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!:eek:
I agree. The frames on FGTs are special alloy, and require appropriate welding technique, equipment and after-weld process. That frame is suspect, and not trustworthy. Apples to zucchini comparison to a mini-van type low tech sheet steel repair. FGT Forum has a detailed thread on the Monkey GT. :eek:
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| Armrer |
11-02-2015 05:19 PM |
[quote=FarRider;1369960]What do Gt owners think about this one?
As an owner of a late '06, I guess 'have at it'.
It's a documented salvage car, well announced as such on TV. If they want to butcher it for ratings, that's their perog.. they paid for it. However, their perception of what its final value is.. well, serious crack smoking. A 'poke and hope' frame repair and airbags won't bring even close of what they are anticipating. :rolleyes:
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| fordracing65 |
11-02-2015 07:38 PM |
Almost ever GT I see has been modded, nobody leaves them stock it seems, why would you if you drive it, al least keep the original parts and make it louder and faster...
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| lippy |
11-03-2015 08:29 AM |
What is a PPI?
Separately, you'll notice during the show they use O'Reilly brand oil. Sort of gives you a clue about the quality of their work.
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| Mark IV |
11-03-2015 09:05 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by lippy
(Post 1370076)
What is a PPI?
Separately, you'll notice during the show they use O'Reilly brand oil. Sort of gives you a clue about the quality of their work.
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PPI= Pre Purchase Inspection, done by a third party who is supposed to know the car and what to look for.
I would venture O'Reilly is a sponsor. And look on the oil container to see who actually makes it. NAPA brand is done by Valvoline for example. |
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