The Hurricane chassis in 3-D

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by cdnus

ERA
I must agree with you, if in fact these drawings are in the final stages of completion. When I first viewed the drawings I was not impressed with the way the entire front cowl structure appears to be mounted to the sheet metal foot box's by a very weak framework. Looks like it would not be very strong & allow for excessive cowl shake.
JMHO

Craig

Thanks. I'm just glad someone is looking at the structural issues. If the mfgr or representative wants to chime in here-please do. I like to have the results of any testing and these points explained to me from their standpoint.

[gsharapa]

ERA Chas...

So what's your opinion of Superformance Chassis?

[ratsnst1]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Thanks. I'm just glad someone is looking at the structural issues. If the mfgr or representative wants to chime in here-please do. I like to have the results of any testing and these points explained to me from their standpoint.

I like your fuel tank and , most emportantly the way its mounted, oh yes and the sway bars, and I said bars as in two, front and rear, I cant seem to find any on the hurrican, and I dont use straps for my fuel tank.

[elmariachi]

Hurricane is capable of conducting SFA on their existing product designs and assumedly could do the same here if they choose to. If one of you ERA owners wants to go slam your car into a dump truck and have your heirs report back the results, we'll definitely use that for comparison should they ever test the Hurricane.

[LMH]

The verticle cowl brace and it's attachment point at the frame in the drawing isn't the same as my car. Not sure how accurate the drawings are in showing the type of tubing used. My car is square boxed tube.
Maybe a change in the newer cars? Don't know.
Larry

[Bill Bess]

Ah yes , we all love our little toys and trying to prove that "mine is bigger than yours" is fun to say to least.
Each Cobra has their respective strong points along with weaknesses base on some fact and mostly the owners perceptions. It's easy to pick apart another car, but in reality they all do the job, unless your a real racer and compete.
If you want to find out which car is the strongest....run it into a brick wall at 100 mph and then flip it over a 1000' cliff, if the driver is still alive...that is the best car.

What about all that messy wiring on the firewall..fuses and stuff?

[dlampe]

My internet goes down for one day and there is already trouble on the play ground. Rat and ERA, you make some good points, however your tone makes you sound like an ass. Lets get a Hurricane Chassis and post some pictures then lets see an ERA chassis. Then we will see what there is to see. On the other hand, who give a sh#t if someone likes my frame or not! My Kirkham frame was the weakest frame I have ever had when it comes to torsional rigidity. I don't here people talking about that. ERA boys, is your chassis better than the Kirkham too! You guys are really something else. Patrick excluded, you have been helpful.

The price difference is so great that you can have a top of the line Hurricane complete kit and a new 24ft enclosed Hallmark trailer to put it in or you could wait 2 years for an ERA kit? Which would you choose? There have been a lot of advancements in automotive technology in 25 years even though the "skin" looks the same.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by dlampe

Patrick excluded, you have been helpful.

Now that's something you don't read every day.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Bill Bess

What about all that messy wiring on the firewall..fuses and stuff?

Bill, I agree with you on the exposed fuses point, although some ERA owners dearly love that look -- but I don't. And what's more, Bob P., as much as I love him, has a fuse cover that I don't like much better. However, 428street, who if there ever was a job entitled "Stickler for Small Details" he would be a shoe-in, found that you can fabricate the inside of the Lucas fuse covers to fit quite nicely. And that is what I did. What'cha think?

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by dlampe

My internet goes down for one day and there is already trouble on the play ground.

Agreed, the pissing contest doesn't really do anyone any good. I have seen this new frame prototype in person and while from a drawing perspective, one might assume the side post and footbox design is flimsy sheet metal, its not. The side posts were previously square tubing and were replaced in that area with 3/8" x 4" plate in order to afford more leg room. I am sure for those who would prefer the tubing over the single plate, you can order it that way. In my opinion, if I suffer an impact in the side the difference between the tube and the plate WILL NOT MATTER one bit. I'll take the additional leg room and in fact, an argument could be made in a light collision that I'd be better off because there could possibly be less intrusion into the leg area.

Originally Posted by patrickt

And that is what I did. What'cha think?

You didn't ask me, but I think you sure spent a LOT of money on an ERA only to clutter it with zip ties.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

You didn't ask me, but I think you sure spent a LOT of money on an ERA only to clutter it with zip ties.

I bet your new Hurricane overheats.

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I bet your new Hurricane overheats.

Bahhahhhahhhaaaa. Thud. But my dang timing is correct. Anyway, I have a bevvy of $50 Taurus fans stacked up like cord wood. Bring on that 101* Houston spring weather.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by patrickt

In IT parlance we would call that a "spaghetti factory." I'm surprised that ERA hasn't done anything over the years to clean that up?

I thought you were more anal than that, Patrick.

-Dean

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

In IT parlance we would call that a "spaghetti factory." I'm surprised that ERA hasn't done anything over the years to clean that up?

I thought you were more anal than that, Patrick.

-Dean

Uhh, originally it was a bit cleaner than that. Over the years, I have "supplemented" it.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Uhh, originally it was a bit cleaner than that. Over the years, I have "supplemented" it.

Stick to polishing the exterior. Know your strengths.

[fastraxsg]

Goodness sakes alive, lighten up for Pete's sake some of you ....they're cars, not your wife. I might have to post some photos of my Holden in-line-six wannabe Cobra from Jakarta pieced together with VW, BMW and Fiat parts if ya all keep this up...just enjoy the differences and polish your own car.

[LMH]

Patrickt, I haven't dug through all of your photo's, so I didn't see it but does your car have ERA's optional IRS unit?

Having looked at both a number of times and having past racing experience, I would think the optional suspension would be worth the extra $ IMO.
Larry

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by LMH

Patrickt, I haven't dug through all of your photo's, so I didn't see it but does your car have ERA's optional IRS unit?

Having looked at both a number of times and having past racing experience, I would think the optional suspension would be worth the extra $ IMO.
Larry

I think Patrick has a 12-bolt posi from an early Camaro.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by LMH

Patrickt, I haven't dug through all of your photo's, so I didn't see it but does your car have ERA's optional IRS unit?

It does indeed. Pics are below.

Originally Posted by LMH

Having looked at both a number of times and having past racing experience, I would think the optional suspension would be worth the extra $ IMO.

I believe it is.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think Patrick has a 12-bolt posi from an early Camaro.

... and you can bite me on that one, Rod.

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by patrickt

It does indeed. Pics are below.

Admit it, you took your car out of the bag just to take those pics, didn't you? I knew it.

I do have to admit, having never seen an ERA chassis, that is very impressive design and workmanship.