Turkey Pan

FIA-ERA · #1 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 08:53 AM

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"I don't think the turkey pan helps at all." To make such a statement is idiotic at best.

Well I think this statement is a little off. I can tell you with out mathematics and with a better instrument gauge, the seat of my pants, where the problem lies. It's not the turkey pan that's the problem, it's the air filter we put on top of it! The original Stellings just plain sucks! Even the KN filter as shone above still has it's limits to how much air can come in. Just do the math on the cfm flow of the air filters. They never ran filters on race motors did they. Why because they slow down the amount of air the engine needs. On the street and in most cases we have to run filters to protect the longevity of the motors. I would say most don't take the motors out every 600 miles or so to freshen them up. My car runs A LOT better with out the Stellings filters BUT I can't run around here with out a air cleaner because of all the road work and dust. I like the looks of the turkey pan, I appreciate the performance side, but after a lot of trying both ways I went away from the turkey pan. My car is happier and runs a lot better. The Turkey pan was very hard on my motor just idling around town. There wasn't enough air coming in to help it run down low. Like you said, you have to be moving to get the best use of it. I'm going to get some popcorn now. Matt

gsharapa · #2 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 11:19 AM

Stock scoop on my car. I'm running a Victor single plane with the carb platform cut down 1/2 inch, air cleaner base is 9 inch flat base, K&N 2.75 filter and K&N extreme top....

Machiavelli · #3 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 12:02 PM

Thanks Gary, any low speed vs. high speed mixture issues as described by Matt above?

patrickt · #4 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 12:52 PM

For predominantly street-driven cars, the real benefit of a Turkey Pan is that it seems to eliminate heat soak percolation, which can be a real PITA on these cars. My car starts fine even when really hot, in 100+ degree temps, and after sitting in the sun.

rodneym · #5 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 01:38 PM

I have a question:

My experience is that air is coming out of the scoop at about 40 mph. My old SPF backfired and smoke came OUT of the scoop. Doesn't this mean that air is coming out? Seems like the seal of a TP would HAVE to be pretty solid to work as designed.

But as gsharapa said, it's pretty awesome looking.

patrickt · #6 (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym

I have a question:

My experience is that air is coming out of the scoop at about 40 mph. My old SPF backfired and smoke came OUT of the scoop. Doesn't this mean that air is coming out? Seems like the seal of a TP would HAVE to be pretty solid to work as designed.

Surely you remember those Chevelles with the little door that opened up in front of the windshield on the scoop that was backwards? But regardless of whether it works better or not, a backwards hood scoop looks dumb.

PurpleVenom · #7 (**permalink**) 02-04-2011, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

My car starts fine even when really hot, in 100+ degree temps, and after sitting in the sun.

Not running a turkey pan - So does mine. Seems to me for any effect, you have to be moving. JMO

Tim

Machiavelli · #8 (**permalink**) 02-04-2011, 04:45 PM

was wondering, anyone ever think about those rarely used air ducts for the brakes? a little creative plumbing and ... who knows?

patrickt · #9 (**permalink**) 02-04-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

was wondering, anyone ever think about those rarely used air ducts for the brakes? a little creative plumbing and ... who knows?

A lot of us route that duct work in to the top of the foot boxes for a little fresh air down in the footsie area.

GMS · #10 (**permalink**) 02-04-2011, 05:14 PM

Here is a photo of cold air intake duct work I put on a supercharged 4.6 I started a carb top for duct work but never finished. Richard and I have often discussed the hood scoop and airflow situation.

Larry

vector1 · #11 (**permalink**) 02-04-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Thanks Gary, any low speed vs. high speed mixture issues as described by Matt above?

running a 14" air cleaner and just changing the base from a drop to mid height changes the a/f ratio. bit more sensitive then i would have believed.

btw, i can still fit a normal scoop if desired and the jbl large scoop allows a 12" x 2 air cleaner if i remember right, i'd have to check to be sure.

Machiavelli · #12 (**permalink**) 02-05-2011, 04:56 AM

I've been looking at the K&N XStream assemblies, looks like that one will flow a lot of air. I've also been looking to see if anyone is making a micro-screen filter like in some oil filter applications http://www.kandpengineering.com/tech...ghlights.shtml I imagine a micro-screen type would give the best possible flow, seems to be the least restrictive of any filtering element out there - I wouldn't recommend in dusty environments. I do intend to use the K&P replacement for the Moroso on my motor.