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11-12-2009, 11:32 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RON N BKFLD
Don't have to worry about matching paint, +++++ Ron
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Exactly. The Kirkhams can fix it, no sweat. Get some upgrades while you're there. It will make you happy again.
BTW, someone almost hit me from behind once because they were too busy trying to take a pic of my car with their cellphone and almost couldn't keep they're foot on the brake at a stoplight. 
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11-12-2009, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
The Kirkhams can fix it, no sweat.
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How do you go about fixing banged-in aluminum like that? Do you cut it out? Heat it up and whack it somehow?
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11-12-2009, 04:01 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
Posts: 1,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
How do you go about fixing banged-in aluminum like that? Do you cut it out? Heat it up and whack it somehow?
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They could tell you, but because you own an ERA, they'd have to then kill you. 
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11-12-2009, 04:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
They could tell you, but because you own an ERA, they'd have to then kill you. 
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Out of courtesy to the OP, I am not taking advantage of the situation to point out the benefits of a glass car. 
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11-12-2009, 04:08 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Out of courtesy to the OP, I am not taking advantage of the situation to point out the benefits of a glass car. 
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Yep, and I am sure the company who insured the Bimmer will be quite shocked when they see the estimate provided by the folks in Utah. 
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11-12-2009, 04:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
Yep, and I am sure the company who insured the Bimmer will be quite shocked when they see the estimate provided by the folks in Utah. 
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Yeah, but it's called "the egg-shell plaintiff" rule. You bust it, you pay to fix it, regardless of how fragile or expensive that may be. 
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11-12-2009, 04:21 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Out of courtesy to the OP, I am not taking advantage of the situation to point out the benefits of a glass car. 
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So, your saying cracked fiberglass with paint matching would be better? I think you take an Advil either way. The Kirkhams are awesome at fixing this kind of stuff. May I refer you to the Larry Ellison billet car?
Also, there's a CC member here that had a dent banged out of his Kirkham for free by an employee of the Kirkhams at, I think, the Western States Cobra Bash, if I remember correctrly. A few years back.
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11-12-2009, 04:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
How do you go about fixing banged-in aluminum like that? Do you cut it out? Heat it up and whack it somehow?
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While I'm not one of the experts at Kirkham, I think that's about right. I'm aware of a Kirkham, which had some minor accident damage, that I believe was cut out, new piece or pieces welded back in and then smoothed into shape. You couldn't tell anything had happened, unless of course, you looked underneath where it may have shown some seams. Assuming, I recall the info correctly.
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11-12-2009, 04:20 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
You couldn't tell anything had happened, unless of course, you looked underneath where it may have shown some seams.
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Does California recognize diminution of value claims?
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11-12-2009, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Does California recognize diminution of value claims?
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Wouldn't that also happen with fiberglass, when viewed from underneath? I remember people at Corvette shows constantly checking for seams under my Corvette. 
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11-12-2009, 04:29 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Wouldn't that also happen with fiberglass, when viewed from underneath? I remember people at Corvette shows constantly checking for seams under my Corvette. 
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On my car I can't tell that there's been any repair (and I know where to look too). In fact, if I were told to find the ding in the fiberglass on my car by looking underneath, I would guess that it's somewhere other than where it really is. If, after the repair is performed, you can tell that a repair has been performed, then the OP is entitled to a diminution of value payment (in my book, at least), because the car is not the same, and never will be.
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11-12-2009, 04:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
If, after the repair is performed, you can tell that a repair has been performed, then the OP is entitled to a diminution of value payment (in my book, at least), because the car is not the same, and never will be.
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Some interesting case law reading on this subject for all 50 states here:
http://www.mwl-law.com/CM/Resources/...imuinution.pdf
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11-12-2009, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
On my car I can't tell that there's been any repair (and I know where to look too). In fact, if I were told to find the ding in the fiberglass on my car by looking underneath, I would guess that it's somewhere other than where it really is. If, after the repair is performed, you can tell that a repair has been performed, then the OP is entitled to a diminution of value payment (in my book, at least), because the car is not the same, and never will be.
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I don't disagree with you about the diminution of value, and I'm not an alloy expert, but isn't seaming aluminum the manner in which a Kirkham is built when it's built in Poland?
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11-13-2009, 01:36 AM
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Location: yuba city,
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Cobra Make, Engine: spf
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Rodknock, they did a number of free repairs at the WSCB. I sat on a stool and watched the magic. Not on mine cause it was spf. 
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