Coyote 5.0L in a Kirkham?

[fordracing65]

My car is for sale, if your so hot on the coyote why not a cammer, more power, all forged.

[berzerko]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

My car is for sale, if your so hot on the coyote why not a cammer, more power, all forged.

the cammer is a awsome package but $ wise for my application not worth it in my option. coyote turn key is around $8k the cammer add an extra $3k on that.
the reality for me is new car drivability, my 4.6 dynos at 330 rwhp which is plenty quick for the urban driving i do add another 60hp to that with better low end response

A good friend of mine has a 66 fast back he droped almost 30k on a shelby aluminum block, weber style injection fe. the motor is a beast but for 20k could of fitted it with a 5.4 gt500 crate engine. neither are original to the car which would you chose?

this debate comes down to old verse new, at this point I want to turn the key and go maybe when im retired and have nothing to do my option will change.
if i could afford a kirkham i would put a supercharged coyote in it in before a B.B fe
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[fordracing65]

The cammer is $15000, it is a full race motor, the coyote goes in your moms mustang, the forged pistons and ford gt heads is where the cammer really shines, its no wonder it is fords premier road race motor, 90 percent of all teams stayed with the cammer over the coyote, even the le mans winning ford gt uses the cammer over the 5.4 supercharged, coyote 440hp, cammer 550hp, now you see where the money goes. Dont want to get on a mod motor debate, just dont put it in a KIRKHAM.

[SpecOp1]

Well I guess I should chime in here....new to forum, but not modular engines....I have BDR 1063. And it is a 5.0 with a Boss 302 manifold.Dynoed at 419 at the rear wheels. I think that will get you down the road pretty quick. The car is a beast in 2nd and 3rd gear. It has amazing response and eats NO gas. Sounds great with your foot in it and can have a conversation with my passengers in 4th and 5th gear. Have had a 4.6 Mustang GT for the past 6 years and modified that car a lot. When I lift my Cobra hood at shows most people are stunned. Yes some mock it, others just whistle. I haven't been able to get my photos up yet but if you have Facebook look at Backdraft's October 1 entry..(If one of you techy guys can re-print that here, please do)..Kirkhams are great cars....technology changes. I would love to see a mod engine in such a fine car. My 2 cents...Bill

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by SpecOp1

Well I guess I should chime in here....new to forum, but not modular engines....I have BDR 1063. And it is a 5.0 with a Boss 302 manifold.Dynoed at 419 at the rear wheels. I think that will get you down the road pretty quick. The car is a beast in 2nd and 3rd gear. It has amazing response and eats NO gas. Sounds great with your foot in it and can have a conversation with my passengers in 4th and 5th gear. Have had a 4.6 Mustang GT for the past 6 years and modified that car a lot. When I lift my Cobra hood at shows most people are stunned. Yes some mock it, others just whistle. I haven't been able to get my photos up yet but if you have Facebook look at Backdraft's October 1 entry..(If one of you techy guys can re-print that here, please do)..Kirkhams are great cars....technology changes. I would love to see a mod engine in such a fine car. My 2 cents...Bill

I have a mod motor also, the coyote is a plastic engine thus the $6000 pricetag, soon to be in every junk yard known to man, just like previous 5.0. the engine, does look good under the hood, but 419 hp is laughable when it comes to FE power, with no tq to boot, the FE could pull your motorhome.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

I have a mod motor also, the coyote is a plastic engine thus the $6000 pricetag, soon to be in every junk yard known to man, just like previous 5.0. the engine, does look good under the hood, but 419 hp is laughable when it comes to FE power, with no tq to boot, the FE could pull your motorhome.

Sounds to me you are worried the new Coyote motor will undercut the want for your "cammer race motor"........Honestly,you built your car the way you wanted, why put down someone else for wanting to do so,but with their money. My ERA 289FIA has a mildly modified 4.6L 32V FI motor, it is not for everyone, but suits me just fine. Have thought about upgrading to the Coyote motor,but decided in the long run it's not in the card for the car at this time.

Bill S.

PS: My car is also for sale, wonder who's will sell first, yours with the not so street friendly cammer "race" motor, or mine with the street friendly, yet quite powerful 4.6L 32V mod motor

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Sounds to me you are worried the new Coyote motor will undercut the want for your "cammer race motor"........Honestly,you built your car the way you wanted, why put down someone else for wanting to do so,but with their money. My ERA 289FIA has a mildly modified 4.6L 32V FI motor, it is not for everyone, but suits me just fine. Have thought about upgrading to the Coyote motor,but decided in the long run it's not in the card for the car at this time.

Bill S.

PS: My car is also for sale, wonder who's will sell first, yours with the not so street friendly cammer "race" motor, or mine with the street friendly, yet quite powerful 4.6L 32V mod motor

If is was I was worried, I would pull out the cammer, put in a $6000 coyote and sell the cammer for $10,000 , I love smart ass remarks from the people who dont read threads, I love the coyote, just not in a Kirkham. Remember I was the first to have a superformance with a Mod motor, Its awesome, coyote, cammer, or 4.6 dohc, either way, not in a kirkham.

[RestoCreations]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

I have a mod motor also, the coyote is a plastic engine thus the $6000 pricetag, soon to be in every junk yard known to man, just like previous 5.0. the engine, does look good under the hood, but 419 hp is laughable when it comes to FE power, with no tq to boot, the FE could pull your motorhome.

Since i have been sucked into this thread....I'll go ahead and chime in on this post as well.

Actually, the only plastic portion of the engine is the cheesy intake manifold, coil pack covers, and dress up kit. The bottom end of these engines are really solid and built to handle a lot of power. However, if anybody is looking at putting one into their replica or kit, then you should probably avoid the stock Chinese made 6 speed manual and go with a TKO600 or T-56 Magnum. I think Ford managed to make the price low due to economies of scale.

And again, i will say that while the mod engines do look nice in some kits/replicas, I do not think they belong in a Kirkham. I understand that the Kirkham has upgraded suspension, etc. but still, it is an accurate hand formed aluminum bodied car replicating the originals and something about a coyote motor, 4.6L, or 5.4L sitting under the hood makes me a little nauseous.
I do think the engine in this video is very cool though and would definitely want to install a mod motor like this in one of the less expensive cars. The 5.0 looks really good with the Roush or ford racing supercharger installed, but that almost doubles the cost of the motor.

Roush Coyote 5.0 with a Supercharger - YouTube