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Old 11-27-2019, 06:13 PM
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Yep, a CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000/9000 is a good old replica. No disrespect taken at all.

Read the 64 pages where we argued until the thread was closed. And read the Registry. Shelby didn't want to call them replicas, so he had the grand idea to call them "continuation" Cobras. And anyway, Shelby sold most of the company to an LBO firm a long time ago.

I'm getting too old for this S.

There were 998 (or whatever) REAL Shelby Cobras made. And the next Registry won't include the Shelby or Kirkham replicas. Just the Cobras made between 1962-1967 (or whatever).

But you can them anything you want. What do I care.

A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:17 PM
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A couple of years ago I was at a car show and someone walked up and said "wow, is that a real ERA?" Now what was I supposed to say? "no, it's a replica ERA."
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:47 PM
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A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH
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The Concentric Circle Theory (well almost)! I like it, all summed up in a simple chart. Maybe warrants its own sticky!

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Old 11-27-2019, 08:55 PM
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A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH
Numb skull?

You gotta read the 64-page thread, among many others. And read the old World Registry. It’s spelled out there in black and white. The new World Registry won’t even list the new Shelby Cobras. All this nonsense is addressed there.

Oooooh. The 2019 Ford GT is not a 1965 Ford GT40. No parts are shared, the body is completely different and technology and materials have changed dramatically. It’s not a replica, nor a continuation, because it’s a completely different car that is sold 100% complete with warranty. You can drive it right off the dealer lot without a special emissions and safety exemption from Federal laws unlike a Shelby Cobra replica kit car.

Search the thread for the Dodge Challenger or the watch examples. There are several other examples. Same BS. Different year. Your car has very little in common with the 1962-1967 Shelby Cobras. Most parts and materials are different, bodies are different (don’t get me started on fiberglass Shelby’s).

It’s a kit car sold to us, the public, as an incomplete roller. But believe the hype and marketing, what do I care. Delude yourself.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:17 PM
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Sooo - is a 1969 Mustang any less of a mustang than a 1965 Mustang? Let alone a 2019 model. We need to get the ---- over ourselves and realize that the world moves on.
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Ahh...this is great! Back to the old days of the forum. A little bit of excitement; some incentive to log on to see who's said what

And no interest from the moderator! This could go on for a few months before we lose interest, and the upside is that nobody gets banned

Just pouring myself a glass of red.
Here's cheers!
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A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no.
Just a friendly poke as I was reviewing the Carroll Shelby history for a friend writing an article for a newspaper and seemed to get a little off track when I stumbled across the following:

CSL (Carroll Shelby Licensing) officially shows the CSX6000 series as "CSX6000-series continuation of the CSX4000 series".

So while you do own a car licensed by CSL, you actually own a continuation series of a continuation series cobra replica, produced under license by Superformance Inc, and marketed by CSL for Shelby American as a CSX6000 series "component car" .

All friendly busting of chops aside, you do have a beautiful car on your hands. May you get as much enjoyment out of it that you so desire.

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Uhhhh, how many pieces of an original CSX3xxx car would I need to graft on to my ERA before I could call it an original Cobra?
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Uhhhh, how many pieces of an original CSX3xxx car would I need to graft on to my ERA before I could call it an original Cobra?
All of them.
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Uhhhh, how many pieces of an original CSX3xxx car would I need to graft on to my ERA before I could call it an original Cobra?

Just my 2 cents worth as a newby here but.....given the amount of ground up restorations, rebuilds and modification so many of the 'original's' have had prior to being auctioned off for all those hundreds of thousands of dollar (millions even) the real question is how original are the originals nowadays.

How many could truely say they still have all the parts and paint that Carroll himself stuck on them before they went out of the factory door.
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