Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > Kirkham Motorsports

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 10:06 AM
Tommy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dadeville, AL
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my EM.
Posts: 2,459
Not Ranked     
Default

I have one contribution to this thread. My replica is not a Kirkham and my engine is based on a 351W. During my first day of autocross racing, my distributor shaft broke when the oil pump siezed due to lack of oil. While the engine was being rebuilt with a better oil pan, I installed a 3 quart Accusump. With many more days of track time since then, I've never had a problem with low oil pressure. Incidentally, I also put a big red low oil pressure warning light right in front of me on the dash.
__________________
Tommy
Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
Previously owned EM Cobra
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 10:22 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,310
Not Ranked     
Default

Ricky- Damn,....I always owe you something !

"I have been told for years about running high oil pressure with both FE rods and BBC rods, 135 psi cold and 1,200 rpms"

135 psi,.....really ? Is that something that the FE needs ?
I should be building the alum. 482 soon so, I'm concerned about EVERYTHING !
Since it will be the most $$$ engine I've ever built, even the sprint engine.

Sorry I missed the call but, you didn't LEAVE A MESSAGE !
I don't have caller ID buddy. Call anytime.
__________________
Regards,
Kevin
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 10:37 AM
FUNFER2's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle, Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,310
Not Ranked     
Default

RodKnock-I also let the motor warm up before I put a load on it. My wife always says, "I'll sit and watch my garden show so, let me know when your baby is ready to go" lol !

At first start up after winter, I un-plug the MSD box (under my dash) and crank the engine until pressure is up. It does take several revolutions.
__________________
Regards,
Kevin

Last edited by FUNFER2; 05-15-2009 at 10:41 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 10:58 AM
jwd's Avatar
jwd jwd is offline
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 1,226
Not Ranked     
Default

Rick,

I have no expirience with FE motors so maybe they are different animals however, I've built many, many small and big block Chevrolet motors (and 1 Windsor in my Cobra) and I've never seen a dry crankshaft in any motor no matter how long it has been sitting (even years). Built my first motor almost 40 years ago and raced plenty of them. Never had an oiling issue in any of them. We all have our own opinions based on our expirience.

Jim
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 11:05 AM
undy's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
Posts: 2,292
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 View Post
If one does not race, how important or not, is a pump for a driver that the car may sit for several days without running ? At start up, my pressure takes a few cranks before it reaches 40 lbs. Usually during this process, it also takes several cranks for the fuel to reach the carb. anyway. So, does a engine need a pump in my application, or is one just a waste of money for something cool to have ? I realize people that have one will say they need and love it but, lets be straight forward.
C'mon Kev, ya know ya gotz to have it.. Anyway we miss and need another 10 or 12 posts asking .... what brand?, what color???, where to buy???? and will this help the national debt?????

j/k buddy..

Dave
__________________
Too many toys?? never!

Last edited by undy; 05-15-2009 at 11:08 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 11:15 AM
RodKnock's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2 View Post
RodKnock-I also let the motor warm up before I put a load on it. My wife always says, "I'll sit and watch my garden show so, let me know when your baby is ready to go" lol !

At first start up after winter, I un-plug the MSD box (under my dash) and crank the engine until pressure is up. It does take several revolutions.
The other thing is that thicker oil will take a bit longer to circulate throughout the engine. The temps and weather here in the SF Bay Area allow us a chance to drive our cars throughout the year too.

Having a new engine block, like the CSX block with priority main oiling, I feel comfortable that my engine will do fine without the pre-oiler. In my head, the pre-oiler increases the chance for leaks and I hate leaks.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-15-2009, 12:11 PM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock View Post
... I feel comfortable that my engine will do fine without the pre-oiler. In my head, the pre-oiler increases the chance for leaks and I hate leaks.
Rick L.'s just a little funny on pre-oilers. If I thought it was necessary, I'd have one too... and I don't. Except for the "big sit" over the winter, my FE usually gets run at least every two or three weeks at most. I think any decent "clinging" oil (Brad Penn, for instance) will do us just fine -- and I do the same "crank if for ten seconds or so with the ignition disabled" trick after the long winter's nap. If I only get to do that a couple of dozen times then any rebuild will be my kids' problem.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy