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05-15-2009, 10:06 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dadeville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my EM.
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I have one contribution to this thread. My replica is not a Kirkham and my engine is based on a 351W. During my first day of autocross racing, my distributor shaft broke when the oil pump siezed due to lack of oil. While the engine was being rebuilt with a better oil pan, I installed a 3 quart Accusump. With many more days of track time since then, I've never had a problem with low oil pressure. Incidentally, I also put a big red low oil pressure warning light right in front of me on the dash.
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05-15-2009, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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Ricky- Damn,....I always owe you something ! 
"I have been told for years about running high oil pressure with both FE rods and BBC rods, 135 psi cold and 1,200 rpms"
135 psi,.....really ? Is that something that the FE needs ?
I should be building the alum. 482 soon so, I'm concerned about EVERYTHING !
Since it will be the most $$$ engine I've ever built, even the sprint engine.
Sorry I missed the call but, you didn't LEAVE A MESSAGE ! 
I don't have caller ID buddy. Call anytime. 
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05-15-2009, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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RodKnock-I also let the motor warm up before I put a load on it. My wife always says, "I'll sit and watch my garden show so, let me know when your baby is ready to go" lol !
At first start up after winter, I un-plug the MSD box (under my dash) and crank the engine until pressure is up. It does take several revolutions.
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05-15-2009, 10:58 AM
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Rick,
I have no expirience with FE motors so maybe they are different animals however, I've built many, many small and big block Chevrolet motors (and 1 Windsor in my Cobra) and I've never seen a dry crankshaft in any motor no matter how long it has been sitting (even years). Built my first motor almost 40 years ago and raced plenty of them. Never had an oiling issue in any of them. We all have our own opinions based on our expirience.
Jim
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05-15-2009, 11:05 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
If one does not race, how important or not, is a pump for a driver that the car may sit for several days without running ? At start up, my pressure takes a few cranks before it reaches 40 lbs. Usually during this process, it also takes several cranks for the fuel to reach the carb. anyway. So, does a engine need a pump in my application, or is one just a waste of money for something cool to have ? I realize people that have one will say they need and love it but, lets be straight forward.
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C'mon Kev, ya know ya gotz to have it.. Anyway we miss and need another 10 or 12 posts asking .... what brand?, what color???, where to buy???? and will this help the national debt?????    
j/k buddy..
Dave
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05-15-2009, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
RodKnock-I also let the motor warm up before I put a load on it. My wife always says, "I'll sit and watch my garden show so, let me know when your baby is ready to go" lol !
At first start up after winter, I un-plug the MSD box (under my dash) and crank the engine until pressure is up. It does take several revolutions.
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The other thing is that thicker oil will take a bit longer to circulate throughout the engine. The temps and weather here in the SF Bay Area allow us a chance to drive our cars throughout the year too.
Having a new engine block, like the CSX block with priority main oiling, I feel comfortable that my engine will do fine without the pre-oiler. In my head, the pre-oiler increases the chance for leaks and I hate leaks.
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05-15-2009, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
... I feel comfortable that my engine will do fine without the pre-oiler. In my head, the pre-oiler increases the chance for leaks and I hate leaks.
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Rick L.'s just a little funny on pre-oilers. If I thought it was necessary, I'd have one too... and I don't.  Except for the "big sit" over the winter, my FE usually gets run at least every two or three weeks at most. I think any decent "clinging" oil (Brad Penn, for instance) will do us just fine -- and I do the same "crank if for ten seconds or so with the ignition disabled" trick after the long winter's nap. If I only get to do that a couple of dozen times then any rebuild will be my kids' problem. 
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