Registering a Kirkham Cobra/Exporting to Europe

[David Biele]

I live in the Huntington Beach area and if anybody needs to have someone take some additional pic's or give a second opinion ( I have owned 3 cobras )
I would be very happy to.

David

[henryr]

since the car has already been "birthed" and titled as a 2005, sounds like trying to pull some switch to another year borders on some type of fraud if not actual fraud.

wasn't boyd coddington involved in some settlement with the state of CA for registering his builds as earlier years ? i also recall reading some of the title servicers were caught up in something like that.

in this day and age, they'll nail you to the wall. especially you rich kirkham owning ****ers...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by henryr

since the car has already been "birthed" and titled as a 2005, sounds like trying to pull some switch to another year borders on some type of fraud if not actual fraud.

wasn't boyd coddington involved in some settlement with the state of CA for registering his builds as earlier years ? i also recall reading some of the title servicers were caught up in something like that.

in this day and age, they'll nail you to the wall. especially you rich kirkham owning ****ers...

It would only be a fraud, if it were illegal to register it outside the State of California as a 1965 AND the facts were intentionally misrepresented to the authorities.

[henryr]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

It would only be a fraud, if it were illegal to register it outside the State of California as a 1965 AND the facts were intentionally misrepresented to the authorities.

agreed. but, there is a paperwork trail and a title stating this car is a 2005 already on record with the state of california. it should have been handled correctly from the start.

changing for whatever reason opens oneself up to charges of misrepresenting the vehicle, avoiding smog, registration and sales tax fees depending on the particular state you then try to backdate the car in. in fact, in CA, it is a felony to misrepresent the year of a vehicle.

sounds like a interesting future piece for SCM legal files.

life is too short. lawyers fees add up to quickly and people love to sue. just my opinion.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by henryr

agreed. but, there is a paperwork trail and a title stating this car is a 2005 already on record with the state of california. it should have been handled correctly from the start.

changing for whatever reason opens oneself up to charges of misrepresenting the vehicle, avoiding smog, registration and sales tax fees depending on the particular state you then try to backdate the car in. in fact, in CA, it is a felony to misrepresent the year of a vehicle.

sounds like a interesting future piece for SCM legal files.

life is too short. lawyers fees add up to quickly and people love to sue. just my opinion.

Some clarity here for both you and Paul.

The paperwork does NOT state, using my car as an example, that my car is a 2007 vehicle. What it does state is that it was registered "in the year 2007" and also the "Year First Sold" is 2007. The "Year Model" is "0000" and the make is "SPCNS" aka Specially Constructed Vehicle.

The other 49 States will probably say..."what the heck is a "SPCNS?" We have no stinkin' SPCNS in our books of cars.

So, the other 49 States may or may not, according to their laws, register the vehicle that Paul is selling as a 2005. I dunno the laws in the other 49 States, but here in CA, the year of the model is "0000", NOT 2005. No backdating (unless it is B.C.), no lying, no cheating, no fraud, no jail, no penalties, no lawyers.

[paul-hb]

Actually, I wouldn't do anything. It would be up to the buyer to do whatever they wanted. I was just curious so that I could pass the information on to out of country buyers to do what they wanted.

Also, Thanks David for the offer. That would be great to have some independent eyes look at the car. I've had so many inquiries, but no on in person.

Paul