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Let us not forget that if it is mandatory (under threat of persecution from Janet Reno) that the banks make subprime loans to allow the American Dream for ALL.... the short fix would result in a building boom. The economy was peaches and cream until the sh$$ hit the fan and bankrupted the world.


Funny how the next guy gets caught holding the bag. :

BO may have inherited this economic problem but has ingeniously used it to advance his agenda.... At the same time doubling the crisis situation.

He has 3 more years to prove me wrong...and I hope to God I am.
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You have got your antiseptic shorts all in a bunch !!! I don't have time for this crap...but here are a couple facts for you...During the Clinton Administration there was not only peace and prosperity...there was a BUDGET SURPLUS...welfare reform...full employment...no inflation....Strong Dollar...etc... Bush was a empty suit, if you can give him credit for not interning all the Arabs or Muslims in America, give Bill some credit for taking care of the interns.... I think it is telling that not a single member of the Bush Adminstration has written a book that defends him....not even the freaking (kill everyone) NeoCons and I suspect Cheney's book will not help his cause. At least his loony tunes idea of turning the SS account over to Wall Street got laughted off the stage, thank god....well, anyway, in closing, I thought Clinton was the greatest political mind of the last 50 years but he got beat by a skinny black kid with no experience and a very strange name off the streets of the intercity....the ONE we have been waiting for....and some people just can't deal with it...bye...

Clinton WITH a Republican Congress did do a good job financially. But there was NO SURPLUS.
NATIONAL DEBT:
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.30


99 to 2000, almost even, but never a surplus. A common but erroneous claim OFTEN made by liberals. Compared to GWB or BHO, Clinton's numbers are terrific. Why tarnish them with false claims?
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He started it !!! Did to !! I am afraid it has become the culture in here.
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We get the representation we demand, end of story. 30-40% voting among eligibles? Shameful. I think the nation is going into the crapper because the majority really don't give a crap. And any fool that thinks the government can provide anything at reasonable cost and with efficiency just doesn't pay attention. The only real hope we have, IMHO, is a return to states rights, and push spending down as close to the local level as possible. Cancel the Great Society and force people to re-instill a work ethic in the culture. But sadly, I don't think its gonna happen in time to stave off a collapse.
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He started it !!! Did to !! I am afraid it has become the culture in here.
But it doesn't have to be. Ron & Jamo have been trying to temper things down. I know discussions get heated but if we treat each other with a little more respect & just agree to disagree like gentlemen, there would be alot less moderating to do.

BTW, I've seen the things the Club Cobra team can do when united for a cause, the money raised for good causes & the support of others. If we could just channel all that hostile energy into more of those good causes, just think of all the projects we could tackle.........just a thought
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Can't we all just get along?.......

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That's right! Why can't we all just get along and be happy, not worry and drink more cool aid.
As Brit Hume put it, "His Wonderfulness" will pull us through with all his accomplishmesnts.
Peace Brothers! ...where's my dumb down pills?
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Let's all sing Cumbaya.
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The Democrtas are a nasty crowd,
To ruin our country,they seem avowed.
Spending money,like drunken sailors do,
With costly pork projects,funded by me and you.

First is the over botoxed, Leader Pelosi,
She reminds me a lot of Bela Legosi.
She voted against water for the Valley folks ,who farm,
How many hard working families ,did she harm?

Harry Reid,that pinched faced twit,
He always seem to be in a snit.
He got a lot of pork for a fast train to Reno,
It's now much faster to get to a Casino.

Al Gore, is not thin,
To me ,he's a total waste of skin.
He tried to, in the Oval Office sit,
To Gore supporters, BUSH WON,GET OVER IT!!

Barney Frank sure is scary,
With those eyebrows oh so hairy.
O'Reilly asked about Fannie Mae and, his part in it,
Barney got mad, and threw a hissy fit!

Hillary Clinton lost her spot on the slate,
So Obama, named her Sec. of State.
The new job takes her to places far away,
Now Slick Willie,has lot's of time to play.

Then there is Sen. Joe Biden,
With his new job, his infuence ,did widen.
He wouldn't have been my pick, no way,
Cause you never know what that dummy might say!

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No, We all can't get along. Never will happen. There will always be differences of opinions. It's how we express these differences that make the difference on here. I love a good verbal altercation & beat down, but that just leads to threads being closed & work for the mods. I'm just saying a little more restraint & respect would go along way.

BTW, I'm not a Cumbaya kind of guy, there are a bunch on here I would like to hold their heads under the water until the bubbles stop.
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This SNL skit really sums up what Obama has done in the last 9 months...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8ly8CPCNo
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Can't we all just get along?.......

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Actually it is the world problem in a nutshell. Here is a group united by a single, at least fairly consuming interest. But even with our Common Cause, we can and do get very heated with each other over other subjects. Extrapolate that into the world. Where there is no Common Cause. Each nation and each group within each nation pursuing their own, competing interests. Some, many, of those interests have NO basis in morals or conscience. Here in the USA TOO! Today we have a group of possibly millions that swear to KILL every one of us here and in Europe. Other places there are groups willing to kill all of their own dissenting citizens.

I know that "Can't we all just get along?" is a joke. But the historical and realistic answer is NO! Never have, NEVER WILL.
We can pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, but we WILL be fighting somewhere else. Very possibly Iran where we would rue that fact that we would't have them surrounded like we do now.
Bullies pick on and beat up the weaker countries or kids in a school yard.
Man IS an animal. Peace is fleeting and temporary, war is the common condition.

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Bull****. He protected this country after a devastating blow that was devised, planned, and trained for under the Clinton administration. He held the economy together during a time after 9/11 when things could have gone to hell, the industrial base was going to hell before he got there due to previous administrations (See Clinton's 2000 China trade bill), he didn't go half as far as Roosevelt/Truman did with suspension of habeus corpus, internment of the Japanese, and internment of 200,000 German sympathizers after WWII, and exploded the government (check out what BO has done). I do fault him on border protection and not pursuing the war more diligently.

Please offer something that has a basis in fact. From what you've served up here you are either too young to remember or too blind to see.


Couldn't have said it better myself! I agree 100%!

Just heard the unemployment rate is up to 9.8%, I seem to recall at one time it was at about 4.9% under the Bush administration. Ah, those were the days!

It's going to be a LONG 4 years!
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Sept. 7, 2009 9:33AM
The Peter Principle and the Obama Administration

Most of us born in the fifties and early sixties will remember the book, "The Peter Principal" written by Laurence J. Peter. The basic premise of the book is that at some point in time you will be promoted to a position wherein you are no longer competent, and have therefore reached your level of incompetency.

President Obama has, clearly, given new meaning and life to the Peter Principle. As the clock ticks away on his administration he displays his inefficacy and inability to handle the job he has been given in a productive, cohesive, intelligent, partisan manner. He has obviously attained his level of incompetency.

As community organizer and political/racial/neigborhood rabble-rouser he was par excellence. Unfortunately, those who saw him as their ticket to the White House, did not realize that they were removing him from his niche. The very thing he was born to do. He was not born to lead. He was born to agitate. And agitate he has. Although not in a good sense.

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The SNL skit was entertaining, a good joke, but it was also miss leading as it concerns actual facts. A couple of examples: Guantanamo Bay closure, no easy solution there but we are making substantial progress in getting the job done. Health Care, the jury is still out on this one. Many before O have tried and failed. Obama is now closer to getting it done than anybody who has ever preceeded him.

Entertaining? Yes. News worthy? Not so much...

Juggernaut, one of the primary reasons Obama was elected was because of the collapse of the economy, when BUSH was at the helm. Citing those unemployment numbers and suggesting they are Obama's fault is like: Pissing down my back and telling me it's raining.

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Obama didn't run against GW, who beat two very popular liberals for his terms. He ran against GW's perceived record, which McCain and the others didn't defend, but rather distanced themselves from.

We'll never know...GW would certainly have made it clear why the economy tanked (previous Democratic actions), and would've been able to score on the success on the surge.
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the snl skit was entertaining, a good joke, but it was also miss leading as it concerns actual facts. A couple of examples: Guantanamo bay closure, no easy solution there but we are making substantial progress in getting the job done. Health care, the jury is still out on this one. Many before o have tried and failed. Obama is now closer to getting it done than anybody who has ever preceeded him.

Entertaining? Yes. News worthy? Not so much...

Juggernaut, one of the primary reasons obama was elected was because of the collapse of the economy, when bush was at the helm. Citing those unemployment numbers and suggesting they are obama's fault is like: Pissing down my back and telling me it's raining.
its raining!
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The SNL skit was entertaining, a good joke, but it was also miss leading as it concerns actual facts. A couple of examples: Guantanamo Bay closure, no easy solution there but we are making substantial progress in getting the job done. Health Care, the jury is still out on this one. Many before O have tried and failed. Obama is now closer to getting it done than anybody who has ever preceeded him.

Entertaining? Yes. News worthy? Not so much...

Juggernaut, one of the primary reasons Obama was elected was because of the collapse of the economy, when BUSH was at the helm. Citing those unemployment numbers and suggesting they are Obama's fault is like: Pissing down my back and telling me it's raining.
As soon as BO got elected the stock market losses doubled.
Then we get a tax cheat for ruler of the IRS.
Barney Fags takes charge for the nationalization of banks & GM.
We now have Czars some devout Black Panther Communist.
Bo promised change and we are getting it.....3 yrs to go.

Man it's not raining it's Storming
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...why do I feel all wet all of a sudden? Freakin' pee party around here.
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Bush's BIGGEST mistake was starting a war with Iraq that we really didnt need.
The terrorists' 9/11 deeds was their big act. There have been no more attacks in the USA, no matter WHO would have been in charge.
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