Domestic Abuse? Denied Health Insurance!

[Excaliber]

I'm not so sure a Government option would be a bad idea. Current forecasts for the health plan(s) offered to date show a DECLINE in the deficit under these plans and, as Obama has said, NOT an increase in Government spending.

The Senate Finance Committee’s healthcare plan got a clean bill of fiscal health from key congressional scorekeepers – that is, it insures most Americans without adding a dime to the federal deficit, according to nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

Source: http://features.csmonitor.com/politi...t-your-wallet/

[Bobcat]

Ernie .... according to what I`ve been able to find out , those figures are estimates only from the CBO based on reviewing a summary .... not the actual plan(s) . I thought it interesting that a while back the head of the CBO was summoned to the White House when the CBO published some figures that Obama didn`t like .... and all at once , we have these favorable figures ?? As everyone knows , the devil is in the details ... and there is a real devil here . There will be massive tax increases on the insurance companies .... which will raise everyone`s premiums and force people to look to the government as their savior . Also , those tax increases , and many others , apply immediately , while the actual plan doesn`t come into play until 2013 .... isn`t that playing fast and loose with the "facts " ?
All government programs ever put in place have had massive cost overruns and been nowhere near projections on cost . I`m afraid I have to disagree with you on this ... I see a massive train wreck in the offing .

Bob

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I'm not so sure a Government option would be a bad idea. Current forecasts for the health plan(s) offered to date show a DECLINE in the deficit under these plans and, as Obama has said, NOT an increase in Government spending.



Source: http://features.csmonitor.com/politi...t-your-wallet/

The decline [89 billion] in the deficit is predicated on approximately $300. billion in tax increases +++ SAVING $400 billion [ ALMOST HALF THE TOTAL COST] from waste in Medicare and Medicaid. In 44 years of complaints, reforms, adjustments, and investigations, in M&M the total savings so far EQUALS $00.00! The $300 billion in tax increases on businesses, called fees and fines etc., WILL be passed on to the consumer as EVERY tax on business ALWAYS has been and will be.
So IF $889 billion would be the number [not damn likely] And you take away $300 billion in extra costs to the average citizen and find NONE of the "savings: in M&M [and NONE will be found] Instead of an $89 billi8on reduction in the deficit, it will be an additional $611 billion ADDED to the deficit and that is wishful thinking.
And if that was NOT bad enough, as I said above, NONE of the plans under consideration do beans to help the poorest, and still leave 20 million of the imaginary 47 million uncovered.
Even if we could forget about the money that WILL not be available to pay for it. None of the plans are worth consideration for more than a few seconds before tearing them up and starting over.
The reason they do not want them posted online in advance is not because of all the 'dangerous' clauses therein, but because ALL could plainly see the plans to be stupid and worthless to accomplish the stated goals! That becomes more and more obvious every day!