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Old 10-13-2009, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE: SPF2245-I agree the punishment is a little steep, however, I'm going on the side of stop blaming the schools and blame the parents/kids. Let's not forget, he was not supposed to bring a knife to school (it clearly IS/HAS a blade) so rather then letting it go...let's ask for a punishment of 5 days and call it even.

I agree 100%....He DOES need to learn his lesson, and so do the parents.

"The American Psychological Association has argued that strict zero-tolerance rules hurt student achievement and can even make schools less safe." "When that common sense is missing, it sends a message of inconsistency to students, which actually creates a less safe environment," said Kenneth S. Trump, president of National School Safety and Security Services, "People have to understand that assessing on a case-by-case basis doesn't automatically equate to being soft or unsafe."

And just for the record:

"State Democratic Rep. Terry Schooley sponsored a bill that gave districts more flexibility on punishments, but the law applies to expulsions, not suspensions. She was moved to act after a fifth-grader in same school district was expelled last year for bringing a birthday cake and a serrated knife to cut it with; the expulsion was overturned."

Wow, not everyone is treated equally, I'm sure glad she didn't trip and stab the birthday girl.



Thank goodness I was starting to think I was the only sane one here...thanks to Zoloft.
The American Pyschological Assn.? You're kidding, right? The same morons who put kids on anti-depressents and show up as expert witnesses to assplain how Little Johnny didn't mean to kill his teacher cuz the poor little basturd had too many Twinkies and had to grow up in a trailer park.

And Trump's association is a trade association for cops for hire that provide security for campuses...they are not teachers or educators in any way, shape or form, and provide assolutely no credibility to the argument you seem to be trying to make, whatever it is. Talking heads are not experts.

Not really interested in what a state legislator has to say...just a politician with no hands on experience and looking for votes.

Use your eyes and ask a Boy Scout...that's not a camp "utencil"...it's a standard Swiss Army camping knife and has nothing to do with Boy Scouts. It has a variety of tools on it that aren't open in that pic...including some others that could be used as a weapon.

What if an older kid was picking on the little snot and grabbed the knife...a zillion what ifs...that's why it should never be allowed at a school.

Really...I can't imagine anybody with kids actually arguing that the school was not completely justified. Little Johnny gets mixed signals growing up when Mom fights for him after he broke a rule.

And my Turkish Brother...any little POS who really is in the Boy Scouts ought to know enough to follow the rules...that's what Scouting is all about. Six years old is old enough to understand...or he should not have been given the damn knife.

Assolutely assinine. Let the schools do their damn job...parents ought to be talking to their kids instead of seeking ego support from the internet.

Edit: BTW, just saw where NPR (that's National Public Radio) agrees that the kid ought not be punished. Next, ACORN, the Democrats and the ACLU will be joining the rest of the folks who think it's ok for a 6 year old to break the rules cuz he's a good kid.

The parents (one of the three) bought the knife for the kid...again, nothing to do with Boy Scouts. Give a kid a knife or a gun and you'd better well teach him/her the damn rules.
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