Shooter advised Obama transition

[Joe Wicked]

Another problem that has to be addressed too is the fact that this is a terrorist from inside our military ranks. Such terrorists can change the outcome of a fire fight quickly since they are already behind our lines and trusted. I also want to know how he is allowed to CHOOSE to not be deployed. If I had ever refused a deployment I would have been court marshaled before I could finish the word NO.

[Buzz]

I understand your burning need to blame this and any other unpleasant event on Obama, but the extent to which you are stretching circumstantial issues is laughable at best.

This crackpot could have cared less who is in the White House and whether or not their foreign policy is one of "appeasement". He would have done what he did even if Atilla the Hun himself was president.

Yes he may have gotten fuel for his fire from the rantings of a radical imam and he clearly sympathized with the Islamist jihad, but his meltdown appears to have been an individual act and a far cry from an organized act of foreign sponsored terrorism on US soil. In spite of the fact that his beliefs are rooted in Islam, this is more and act of domestic terrorism than anything else.

Now, if it turns out that he was a sleeper agent or a "winter soldier" implanted in the US military by Al Quaeda, then that's a whole different story. Highly unlikely though. Not every a$$hole who shouts religious slogans while going on a shooting rampage is a bona fide foreign terrorist.

I know I'm wasting my time going against the excited clamour to turn this event into an Obama indictment so I'll bow out and let you have your fun.

One thing I think is worthy of discussion though is the politically incorrect question of whether it is even possible for a devout Muslim to serve loyally in the US Armed Forces given todays global realities - and what measures could/should the US military be taking to address this concern. I will start a new thread so as not to drag this lynching party off topic.

[bomelia]

We will see. Bush got blamed for crap at a much lower level than this.

And yes, Obama is an apeaser. The VERY first "I'm sorry for..." proved it.

As for the PC incorrrect issue, I already brought that up in this or another similar thread. Our soldiers should never have to worry about the loyalty of other soldiers.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by bomelia

We will see. Bush got blamed for crap at a much lower level than this.

You may very well be right but I stopped playing tit for tat when I was five.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by Buzz

I understand your burning need to blame this and any other unpleasant event on Obama, but the extent to which you are stretching circumstantial issues is laughable at best.

This crackpot could have cared less who is in the White House and whether or not their foreign policy is one of "appeasement". He would have done what he did even if Atilla the Hun himself was president.

It has been reported that he thought Obama would pull troops out of the middle east, and was not happy that it did not happen. This comes from one of his family members.

Yes he may have gotten fuel for his fire from the rantings of a radical imam and he clearly sympathized with the Islamist jihad, but his meltdown appears to have been an individual act and a far cry from an organized act of foreign sponsored terrorism on US soil. In spite of the fact that his beliefs are rooted in Islam, this is more and act of domestic terrorism than anything else.

Now, if it turns out that he was a sleeper agent or a "winter soldier" implanted in the US military by Al Quaeda, then that's a whole different story. Highly unlikely though. Not every a$$hole who shouts religious slogans while going on a shooting rampage is a bona fide foreign terrorist.

He had contact with a Imam in Jordan that is connected to Al Queda (and attempted to make contact with Al Queda himself), and he had worshiped with this same Imam when he was in Virginia. The CIA has wiretaps of these calls. This same Imam has praised him since the shootings. He may not have been planted by Al Queda, but I definitely think the facts are staring to show that this guy was a terrorist. He was motivated by religion and possibly a foriegn Imam with connections to terrorist IMO.

I know I'm wasting my time going against the excited clamour to turn this event into an Obama indictment so I'll bow out and let you have your fun.

One thing I think is worthy of discussion though is the politically incorrect question of whether it is even possible for a devout Muslim to serve loyally in the US Armed Forces given todays global realities - and what measures could/should the US military be taking to address this concern. I will start a new thread so as not to drag this lynching party off topic.

They need to be screened IMO. This guy was already on the radar, but nobody did anything because it was not politically correct.